WS 475 Sissies and Gender

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WS 475 Sissies and Gender

 

As I threatened, you will learn something new in this episode of Whore School, which aired live on November 30, 2025. Gender is complex enough without bringing people’s sexual fetishes into it; sissies often enjoy crossdressing in their opposite gender’s traditional clothes, with a touch of coercion for the plausible deniability. If you think the performance of gender isn’t complex already, imagine adding the sexual humiliation aspect of sissy play. Phew! Read the transcript here, and listen to the podcast. Take notes if you need to!

 

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This is Whore School, where sometimes I push a button and I do it wrong. That was the chime. If you are listening to my voice on a Sunday evening, you should head over to communitykink.com because surprise, the chat room’s open and you can come play with us.

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I promise that I, basically, I don’t bite much unless you ask me to really nicely ahead of time. Whore School is adult sex education. It is a little bit of a threat.

I mean, it’s not like a whole threat, you know? I don’t want to scare you or anything, but you’re probably going to learn something tonight. So far in the chat room, I’ve got Tina Eren, who has joined us. Hello.

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Patty, the confused one, and Mott. Mott’s applesauce. Patty said, don’t threaten me with a good time.

I love learning. Good. You should.

Learning is fun. Fundamental. What’s that the motto to? Learning is fundamental? I can’t remember.

I may have seen it somewhere online at some point. Who the hell knows? I certainly don’t. Tina said reading is fundamental.

Yeah. We’re going to talk about gender tonight. Because it’s important.

Because humans, we’re complex. And look, the state of politics being what it is, gender is a little bit important for you to be, you know, at least passingly conversant about. So that if somebody says something openly transphobic, hateful, bigoted, and stupid, where you can hear it, you have at least the option available to you to give them a dirty look.

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Or offer to educate them by telling them that they’re mistaken. So gender essentialists will tell you that there are only two genders, male and female. They are wrong.

They’re incorrect. It’s not just two genders. And that has never been true in the entire history of humanity.

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And we can look at multiple societies and cultures across the span of time for proof of this. Up to and including for those people who really desperately, desperately wish that a completely 100% biblical worldview was accurate and useful. Even the Bible.

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You can hear me typing? That’s because I’m typing in. Because I want to find out. References to eunuchs in the Bible.

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Eunuchs are castrated males or those who are incapable of reproduction thanks to a birth defect of some sort or being, you know, intersex. It crops up in both the Old and New Testament. They held lots and lots and lots of different places in the world.

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Ranging from people who were like scribes and people who worked in various temples and in public life. Administration stuff. So, one of the ones that’s really interesting.

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The book of Matthew. The book of Matthew is almost 100% quotes of Jesus Christ. So, in the book of Matthew, Jesus says, Not everyone can accept this word, but only those to whom it has been given.

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For there are eunuchs who were born that way, and there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by others. And there are those who choose to live like eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. No one who can accept this should accept it.

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So, there’s more than two genders. Because a eunuch in that worldview is not a man. Because he didn’t, or they didn’t, do the stuff that a man is supposed to do.

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Including getting married and having children. If you don’t do that, you’re not really a man. Somebody joined the chat, set my balls on fire, and they just left.

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Sorry, that’s funny. Was it quoting the Bible? Was it talking about eunuchs? Is that why you left? Also, Miss Addie. Addie has joined us in here tonight.

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Hi. Mott is back. Patty says, well then define what a man is supposed to do then.

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I mean, from a biblical point of view, they go into great detail about exactly how a man is supposed to behave. Leviticus, Deuteronomy, Exodus, they talk about it at depth. And they talk about it a lot.

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Patty said, this is not where I thought this conversation was starting. I do like to warn people that you’re going to learn something, and it’s a threat. If you’re tuning in a little bit later, head to communitykink.com. That’s the chat room.

The chat is open. It is here. Join us.

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I promise not to quote more of the Bible at you. Probably. I’ll warn you before I start talking about the Bible.

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Addie says, she’s working towards carpentry. Talking about Jesus is one of the steps. That’s an in-joke.

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For the people who are curious, you should join a Discord and come hang out with us in the Enchantrix Empire Discord. Because we were discussing a DIY St. Andrew’s cross and the importance of padding it appropriately. And the wood choices came up.

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So, it’s carpentry. Alright, so there’s more than just two genders. Gender essentialists, or gender fuckwits, will try to convince you that your biology and your gender are the same thing.

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And they aren’t. They’re not. Sorry.

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You are more than what is in your pants. Gender essentialists will try to tell you that they can tell who’s a man and who’s a woman by looking at them. Which, no, that’s not how that works.

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And two, they can tell who’s a man and who’s a woman by looking at their genitalia. Which is also incorrect for multiple reasons. Every single time you attempt to define what a woman is in such a way that you exclude all trans women, you also exclude some cis women.

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I know, I’m introducing new terms. If you’ve never heard about trans and cis… So, those are terms that are commonly used in things like organic chemistry, and they refer to molecules and molecule shape. So, the first version of a molecule that’s found, and a molecule, to remind everybody, is a fundamental building block of the universe that’s made of several atoms stuck together.

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So, the first one that they discover, and they look at the shape, and they go, aha, we found the thing. That’s most likely the cis version, because it was the first one that they looked at and went, ooh, look. That one is probably more common and more prevalent in the environment than any other way that those atoms could have been put together.

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But sometimes, you wind up with a molecule that has all the same atoms, but it’s a mirror-reversed image. Those are trans. So, a trans fat? Yeah.

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It’s just a fat molecule that’s mirror-reversed from other fats. That’s all it fucking is. Patty says, we’re getting into science.

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I know, I like to tell people. You will learn something, and it might not be what you thought you were going to learn. Zaddy said, I think it’s funny when they say that, because even if it was only two genders, penis and vulva aren’t genders.

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There’s also people who are actually born with ambiguous genitalia. You look at what’s between their legs, and the answer is, I don’t know what I’m looking at. And it could be a person who identifies as a woman who happens to have a very large clit.

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Or it could be a person who identifies as a man and has something else going on down there. Intersex people show up with all sorts of genital configurations. True hermaphrodites? Relatively rare.

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People who you look at their genitalia and go, huh. A lot more common. Intersex people exist.

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And it’s possible to be an intersex person and not know you are. You might not know that you are intersex. So Tina said, for someone who did learn advanced biology, they forget about intersex, the SRY gene, or androgen resistance.

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Yep. There’s so much more going on. So if you try to say that it’s a person who has an X chromosome and a Y chromosome equals a male, then a person who has two X chromosomes equals a woman.

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Fabulous. There are women who have XY chromosomes. There are women with XY chromosomes who have given birth.

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I’m not kidding. Google it. Look it up.

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Women with XY chromosomes that have given birth. There have been men with a penis who have children who are biologically related to them. Who go into the doctor because, man, doctor, my guts hurt all the time.

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What’s going on? It’s really painful. Only to discover that, oh, the reason your guts hurt is because you don’t have an opening for your uterus. So every time you have a menstrual cycle, it just gets backed up in there.

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Surprise. You have a uterus. Just floating around in there.

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It just exists. Hormones have a whole lot more to do with what your biology is than we even really know. It is wild.

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This ad, he said, those motherfuckers talking about chromosomes all the time. Ug. Bitch.

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You can’t even explain what chromosomes are. And I bet you never had yours tested to be sure what yours are. Oh, yeah.

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Tina says, I have a friend’s wife with only one X who gave birth with an ovary donation. Yeah. Yeah.

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So as far as we know, there are, I think, six versions of chromosome combinations that are capable of carrying and giving birth. X, XX, XXX, XY, XXY. I think it’s even possible with XXYY.

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Although the double Y is a little iffy. So don’t quote me on that one. But there’s so many different versions of chromosome combinations that can result in perfectly fertile women.

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So you can’t even look at what your genetics are doing in order to determine exactly what your gender is. It’s not your genetics. It’s not even your hormones.

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The range. Sissy Eddie said, there’s a bunch of Ys. I think I saw one with three.

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Yeah, there’s a bunch. The Y chromosome gets weird, though, because it does something extra. Some of the stuff that it turns on and off with regards to hormones can can fuck you up pretty hard.

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So I’m not sure that multiple Ys result in fertility. They might. There was a study about, I think it was XYY.

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So persons who had XYY for genetics were more likely to be violent offenders. So, let’s see. Until that says, people who have XYY are taller than average, a larger head, weaker muscle tone, an underbite.

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They often have delays and sometimes they have behavioral issues. People are weird, man. There are so many different ways that genetics can crop up and smack us around.

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Oh, Addie found something. She says the XYYY syndrome, also known as 48XYYY, is a chromosomal disorder in which a male has two extra copies of the Y chromosome. The syndrome is exceptionally rare, with only 12 recorded cases that we know of.

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The presentation of the syndrome is heterogeneous, but appears to be more severe than its counterpart, XYY. Common traits include borderline to mild intellectual disability, infertility. See, I knew it was infertility.

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Radio-ulnar synostosis. Oh, that would suck. That one is the fusion of the long bones in the forearm, and it makes it harder for you to turn your hand upside down.

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It’s like you hold your hand out with your palm down and flip it right side up. If your long bones in your arm are fused together, you can’t do that. Tina says on TikTok, I follow an intersex people that have XY chromosome, but have androgen resistance, and they present as a pretty female, because they are.

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It turns out, if you’re androgen resistant, you can have as much testosterone in your body as you want. It ain’t gonna do a damn bit of good, because your body doesn’t respond to it. It’s androgen resistant.

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And it’s exactly why people who are male-to-female transitioning take spironolactone, because it causes your body to become androgen resistant. Bada bing, bada boom. If you then add a higher level of female hormones, like estrogen, progesterone, then you develop female secondary sexual characteristics, like boobies.

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You get tits. It changes the distribution of fat on your body to a more feminine type. Women and men carry fat on our bodies in different spots.

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It’s why women have butts. And a lot of men are oppressed with flat ass. Poor things.

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Patty says, I don’t even know why I ever try to expect the direction Horskull goes in. It’s true. You can never expect.

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No one expects the Spanish Inquisition, and nobody ever expects what I’m gonna do to you. I mean, so, I have to pop around and check all the various chat rooms to see. Is anybody leaving comments? Okay.

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And I’m back. So your gender, it doesn’t have very much to do with whatever is inside your pants. It has less to do with what your genetics are doing.

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And honestly, what your hormones are doing? Who the fuck knows? We have barely begun to scratch the surface of exactly what hormones are doing when it comes to things like secondary sexual characteristics. Much less exactly what your hormones are doing when it comes to things like cognition. We don’t fucking know.

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It’s fucking weird, okay? We know the major hormones. We know testosterone, estrogen, progesterone. We know those.

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We pretty well know what those mostly do. But there are other hormones in your body that are also doing things inside of you that may or may not have something to do with your secondary sexual characteristics or your primary sexual characteristics. For that fucking matter, when you were a fetus before you were born when all of your bits were forming every single human being on the planet at one point in our fetal development all human beings presented as female it is with the addition of higher levels of testosterone and lower levels of estrogen and progesterone and some other hormones as well that then male sexual characteristics begin to develop later in gestation.

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So you can’t even say, well it’s whatever you were in the womb. Both, Karen. We were both.

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We all have both testosterone and estrogen in us just at varying levels. And it’s at varying levels of what’s considered normal for our perceived genders. You hear all of the quotes that I’m putting around things? Normal.

On average. The considered normal levels of estrogen versus testosterone in people, usually people who are female presenting have higher estrogen and lower testosterone. Some Olympic athletes have more testosterone than average.

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This is still normal. This is still within the range of expected values for living human beings. Speaking of, the Olympics is going to start testing only women’s sports for testosterone levels not because they think people are taking steroids but because they want to prevent trans women from competing in the Olympics.

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This is going to absolutely remove some cis women from being able to compete in the Olympics because their testosterone level is too high. Naturally. Naturally occurring testosterone that their body just produces.

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Which means if they want to compete in the Olympics they may very well have to start taking anti-androgen medication including spironolactone to lower their testosterone levels. How the fuck is that fair? Who’s that swimmer dude who keeps winning gold medals because his body’s response to stress hormones is different from everybody else’s? So how come when he encounters stress hormones and his body handles it better, that’s allowed but a woman whose body produces more testosterone and therefore makes her stronger, that’s not allowed? You know, of course, that the reason why men’s and women’s, say, professional shooting so marksmanship in the Olympics is segregated by gender because when they first started letting people compete men and women, they all competed at the same time and it hurt all the dude’s feelings because they stopped winning. So after the women swept the Olympics in all the marksmanship categories the next time they had the Olympics they segregated them by gender.

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So yeah. So Ziad, he said, this is something that really pisses me off. It’s the lack of strong, positive action from allies especially when they have the power and influence to do something meaningful.

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The IOC, that’s the International Olympics Committee has been trans-inclusive for decades and has also tried and abandoned all the controversial and problematic genetic testing because they kept finding people who were intersex by accident. Whoops! It has also funded an actual proper scientific study into trans athletes and their performance compared to cis athletes. Yeah, and that study showed that there’s no difference.

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There’s no difference. There is no statistical advantage that is conveyed to a person who is trans. Trans women versus cis women? Look, the chick who’s all super upset because a trans woman ranked higher than her in a swimming competition? That bitch came in 5th.

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5th! If the trans woman hadn’t competed she would have come in 4th. 4th fucking place and you throw in a… You know what? I mean, Zadi says, and yet it won’t speak up. It won’t be open and loud about its policies and findings.

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It won’t stand up to other regulatory bodies. When they harass and persecute intersex and trans athletes it simply accepts their decisions and their competitions. It will stand by while a tyrannical government led by bigoted maniacs use all of its public institutions and power not only to manipulate and control its own sports bodies and exclude local athletes but to actually threaten foreigners and to dictate how the games are supposed to be.

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Hell yeah. Fuck it. Them bitches.

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Oh, Patty says they also tied. She didn’t beat her. They tied.

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I stand corrected. Kylie says she tied for 5th. The trans woman didn’t compete.

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If the trans woman didn’t compete she still would have finished 5th. Yes. And Tina says it reminds me of the Caster Semenya controversy.

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Semenya. Caster Semenya. They threw giant fucking hissy fits because she can run really really fast.

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She runs really fast. She is an African woman. Which means, yep, she’s black because we can’t have transphobia without racism on top.

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She is a cis woman. She’s a woman. That’s a woman.

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That’s a chick. She has high testosterone. That’s fine.

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It’s still within the normal range. But transphobes lose their shit because they’re convinced that she is a man. Dumbasses.

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Ha. Okay, so. Last time there were the Olympics.

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Iman Khalif. Okay. Iman Khalif is an Algerian boxer who won gold in Paris.

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She can box. Algeria, for those who don’t know, is in Africa. It’s on the far northern coast of Africa right across from France.

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Okay? Algeria. It’s right there. That’s where it’s located.

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She is a cis woman. She kicked the ass out of people in Paris for the Paris Olympics. And then there was an enormous internet pffft which resulted in JK Rowling, may she rot in hell, launching a cyberbullying campaign and trying to get her gold medal taken from her because Rowling was convinced that she was trans.

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Oh, Tina says Caster has testosterone in the male range. Yeah, well, still normal. The fuck ever.

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So the Wikipedia says in 2019, new IAAF, the World Athletics Rules, fuckers, came into force for athletes like Semenya with certain disorders of sex development requiring medication to suppress testosterone levels in order to participate. Because that’s really dumb. She should not have to take medication to make her less.

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Tina says, oh no, don’t speak about the witch. Yeah, we don’t like her anymore. Which reminds me to point out to everybody, hey, don’t give money to JK Rowling.

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Don’t watch the movies. She gets royalties off those. Don’t buy merchandise.

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Don’t go to any of her theme parks. Don’t watch the new reboot, whatever. Like, don’t.

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Just don’t do that. Because she decided to take all of her billions of dollars and start a foundation in order to attempt to strip legal protections from trans women in the UK. And that’s bullshit.

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That’s absolutely bullshit. Patty says, wait, what? Yeah. Oh, yeah.

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She’s a cunt. Actually, no. I like cunts.

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She is a rain-soaked turd. There. Tina says, yep, she’s a TERF.

So, TERF. That’s another good term to discuss. Trans Exclusive Radical Feminist.

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So, second and third wave feminism gave rise to radical feminism, which you would think would be a good thing because we like radicals? No, not so much. They’re gender essentialists. They hang out with ultra-conservative groups because they have basically the same goal, which is to reduce people down to, what’s in your pants? I like fart for them.

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Feminism appropriating racist turds. Yeah. It’s feminism appropriating radical transphobes? Something like that is what fart really stands for.

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But, yeah. Fuck them. Fuck them in the ear.

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Yeah. Patty’s like, I grew up with those books. I know.

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Pretty much everybody did. Kylie says, the one thing I was happy about was when I found out Posey Parker wasn’t Parker Posey. One of those is a TERF.

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Parker Posey. One of those we do not like. It’s always sad when you can look back on media that was really impactful to you during a developmental phase that was really vital to your self and your happiness at an important developmental milestone, and then you look back at it and go, hang on.

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Did she really make the goblins look like they were Jewish? And then enslave them? And then they made a video game about putting down a goblin revolt in order to keep them enslaved? What? Yeah. Here’s some bad shit. So fourth wave feminism is much better because it’s trans-inclusive.

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Tina says, JK Rowling uses the Harry Potter wealth to fund anti-transgender organizations. Yes. She does.

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Every time a new they’re trying to pass bathroom bills in the EU and in Britain, and every time they do, she’s like, yeah! This is good for women! Okay, let’s go talk about gender some more. Your gender? So if it’s not your physical body, it’s not how you look, and it’s not your genetics, and it’s not your hormones. What the fuck is your gender? Right? This is the part that really mind-bends people.

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Because the vast majority of people, they look at themselves and they go, but I know what I am. I am a woman. I am a man.

You know? Like, they know. You know what you are. Mostly.

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The people who generally don’t know what they are are probably somewhere in the not cis category. That would be trans. And he says, don’t forget the sissies bit of the show.

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I’m getting there! I’m getting there! Hang on. Your gender is your identity and the way that you act in the world. Because your gender role and your gender expression and gender performance is the set of actions that you take in the world that may or may not support a personal identity.

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Who you are. What you are. Can be supported by how you act.

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Sometimes the way that you act is informed by how you think you are. If you think you’re a man, then your society and your culture, your friends, your environment, the people who are around you, all provide feedback to you because we are highly social great apes. All of that provides feedback into how you’re supposed to behave.

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You know how a man acts, right? He burps. He farts. He watches football and drinks beer.

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He has an interest in fixing cars. If you have a flat, he knows how to fix it. Probably.

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Men they don’t they don’t do the child rearing. They’re usually not teachers or nurses but a man would be a doctor. Men! Manhood.

Manliness. Men are in the army. Women are nurses for the army.

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Right? Men. Most of that is socially and culturally constructed ideas about what it is to be a man. And on a social and cultural level gender roles help create cohesion within our communities.

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So they have a role. There’s a purpose for them. There’s a reason we put up with this shit.

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And he says, I thought we wanted to abolish stereotypical gender roles. We’re gonna get there. Hold still.

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Just go with me here. We’re going on a journey. So there’s a reason why we have gender roles.

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They serve a purpose. They create social and cultural cohesion. They provide us with a roadmap for how you’re supposed to behave in the world.

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Sometimes gender roles change over time. So the type of man that I was just describing would fit in perfectly in the 1940s, 1950s. By the 1960s a man will play guitar.

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He might recite poetry. You know, for the chicks. He probably plays a sport or a team sport of some sort.

Not on a professional level, but you know, with the guys, with the fellas, he probably has more female friends than he would have in the 40s and 50s. By the 70s he’s a lot more integrated into having more female friends, but now he’s more interested in becoming perhaps more politically motivated and active and he is he’s still kind of macho and got the hairy chest. He’s a badass.

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Every generation slightly alters and shifts the idea of what it means to be a man. In the 70s, 80s, and 90s, well he never would have been a sissy and he’s definitely not a at the time the word would have tripped off of his tongue so easily. He ain’t a fag.

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He ain’t one of them fuckin’ sissies. Of course at the time he also would have used other slurs without even thinking. By the time we get the 2000s, the 2010s, the 2020s, we don’t use those words.

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In the past 30 years, homophobia has become unacceptable most of the time in polite society. You don’t act like that. Now, they still don’t want to admit that they’re interested in sissy stuff, but even more feminine behavior has now become acceptable for men than would have been acceptable in previous generations.

In the 40s and 50s a man would never admit that he ever went to a salon and had his nails done. Now it’s called being a metrosexual, and it’s called hygiene, and you just go and do it. Come on.

Kylie says, I felt like in the 70s was when men splinted to two groups, the Alan Aldas and the Burt Reynolds. Burt Reynolds would be the manly man mustache, smokes cigarettes. Yeah.

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And then Alan Alda would be more intellectual, funny, softer. Patti says, that’s assuming literally every man was interested in sissy stuff, which is not the case. No, that’s not what I’m trying to say.

I’m trying to say the stuff that’s considered sissy stuff now has to be a lot more into the extreme feminization than it would have had to be for previous generations. In previous generations an interest in panties was extremely feminine. That would have been shocking.

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Now, folks in their 20s are like, of course my boyfriend wears my panties. It’s hot, and it turns him on. It’s not a thing.

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Patti says, wait, it’s not? Yeah, it’s not. It’s not a thing. It’s becoming more and more mainstream.

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The stuff that’s considered extreme sissy stuff oftentimes is still a carryover from older generations. Because every single generation, look, there’s still boomers around. They were born in the 40s and 50s.

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They grew up in that. We don’t get as many of the silent generation anymore. They’re in their 90s.

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They’re not around too much. 70s and 80s? Then it’s boomers, baby. 50s, 60s? That’s generation X. 30s to 40s? Those are millennials.

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20 to 30? That’s Gen Z. Time marches onward. Kylie says, washing your ass is still sissy stuff. I know.

Some of that is because Senators in the US are boomers, if I’m right. Yeah, most of them. Ancient fuckers.

Patty says, in the Shawshank Redemption, they used sissies to describe men who look quite masculine, if we’re honest, who sexually assault other men. Yep. The words have changed over time.

The behavior has changed over time. The stuff that’s considered, like Patty says, back up. That’s not considered extreme anymore? Talking about panties for men.

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Depends on the subculture. The overarching culture? Uh, yeah, no, it’s not that weird at all. Especially if you go to, like, a major city that has a thriving BDSM and kink community.

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It’s not weird at all. It has almost become mainstream. It’s like, oh, yeah, of course, blah.

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If you go to a smaller city that does not have a thriving kink community, or that is very conservative leaning, then, yeah, it’s still considered weird. But it’s not ostracize him and immediately assume that he must be gay weird. He’s just, you know, weird.

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The attitudes have been and are continuing to shift, and if you want to see some weird kinky shit, look at what the Xenials are doing. The 20 to 30? Maybe all the way up to 35? That range? Oh, they said kinky motherfuckers. Because it’s normal.

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They grew up on the internet. They have seen some kinky shit. Patty said, sorry for this sounding so dumb.

Eh. There’s no such thing as a dumb question. But I don’t think, like, any amount of a man doing feminine stuff was accepted.

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I mean, yeah. Mott says, I remember rotten.com. Right? It used to be so much worse. So much worse.

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It’s far more accepted now than it used to be. And it’s easier now than it used to be. So when we’re talking about things like sissies, sissies versus trans.

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I’ve done an entire episode about sissies and the trans pipeline. And he says, the pipeline! Yeah. So people who are into the idea of being coerced or pushed or dominated into feminine behavior because it’s ironically humiliating.

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Okay. Yes. Sometimes being a sissy can just be a sexual thing with nothing deeper to it.

It’s just a thing that gets you off. That’s all it is. The same way that for some people being spanked gets them off.

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Same thing. They’re turned on by this specific sexual behavior. And that’s it.

And it doesn’t mean anything else. And then there’s a substantial chunk of the world in which it does mean something else. And it means something about your gender.

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So there is a distinct pipeline between people who get into the sissy stuff for sexual reasons who eventually realize that, oh, huh, I was using the what my mistress told me to do it and so I had to as cover for the fact that I wanted to. Because it’s easier. It’s plausible deniability, right? It’s not because I wanted to do it.

Somebody else made me do it. And therefore it doesn’t count. I’m not the weirdo.

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I’m not the pervert. I did it because my girlfriend told me to. Because she liked it.

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It was for her. I wouldn’t seek that out. I wouldn’t go do that.

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Right? Except there’s a substantial chunk of people who, playing with the sissy stuff, eventually come to realize that maybe you’re into dressing up wearing panties and putting on makeup and getting a wig and being pretty and girly and femme because you are that. Not just something that you do to get off but something that you are. A deeper identity.

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Gender does not reside in your pants. It doesn’t reside in the clothing that you wear. I wear pants.

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Men wear kilts. Come on. It doesn’t reside in your genetics and it doesn’t reside in your hormones.

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Your gender is who you are and that resides in your head. In your sense of self. In your mind.

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So Patty says, I don’t think I count as trans, but I’m probably not fully just a guy either. Hence, for right now, in this moment, I’m confused. Yup.

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Tina says, it’s something I am. It’s afraid to be trans. I like that kind of thing, but I also like my male side.

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So, trans and cis, we’re trying to shove something that’s very, very large into a binary system. So, trans or cis. A or B. And assuming that you can shove every gender into either A or B. You cannot.

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Unless you make those categories very large. So if cis is the gender I thought I was when I was growing up has remained the same gender this whole entire time. I have never questioned it.

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What I was then is what I am now and I am happy this way. Okay, great. That’s cis.

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Then trans is everything else. If you do not fit in the gender that I was raised as, that I thought I was when I was young, is the same as the gender I have right now and I am happy this way. If that’s not true, you’re not cis.

You’re trans. It makes the trans label much bigger. Because the trans label doesn’t say dick about how you behave.

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You do not have to transition. You don’t have to change your gender presentation. You don’t have to change the way that you act because we’re talking about an internal state of being.

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Your gender identity. That’s the first thing. Your gender identity informs the way that you behave.

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The actions that you take in the world. And oftentimes people look at the way you behave and putting on clothing is an action that you have taken. The way you behave, the way that you present yourself to the world, the way that you act when you walk down the street, all of that, society and people in it will look at all of that shit and go, ah, I know what you are.

They probably don’t. The vast majority of people, you look at them, you don’t know what’s going on inside their head. And you can’t know what’s going on inside another person’s head unless they open up their mouth and tell you.

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You cannot look at a person and go, ah, that person is trans. Or, ah, that person is cis. Ah, that one’s a woman.

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You can say, my best guess is that that is probably a woman. And so she and her is most likely to be correct. Probably.

Maybe. This addie says, like I often say, the whole humiliation thing never really worked for me. So overcoming those issues and migrating towards a trans identity was quite easy.

I admitted it was about me. And what I liked from the very beginning, no one was forcing me. I enjoyed and chose those things.

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Patty says, the more I think about it, the more I realize I grew up around some rather close-minded people. Girl, we all did. The arc of the universe bends towards justice, right? Every generation becomes successively more and more and more open and accepting of gender expression that doesn’t fit rigid gender roles and rigid assumptions about how you’re supposed to act in the world.

Which means all of us were raised by human beings who were less open and less tolerant than our generation is, no matter where we are in the generation list. The generations before us were more intolerant. And so all of us were raised by and within a society and a culture that wasn’t very nice to us, that was not open and was not accepting, and didn’t make room for us to happily, merrily experiment with Who am I? What am I? What role do I want to take on in the world? It’s getting better, but still.

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And of course there are still, because the internet exists, because people with ulterior motives exist, people who want to have power over other human beings exist, there’s still always going to be forces that are more regressive. Conservative, in the original meaning of the word conservative. Resistant to change.

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Less progressive. Because… that’s just… Humans, we suck. Sorry.

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Some of us are less cool than others. Which sucks. But there you go.

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There you have it. So, sissies complicate gender, because they’re blurring the lines a lot between male and female, and oftentimes the people who are engaging in sissy play may not have a solid understanding of where they sit on the gender spectrum. They may not have a solid concept for themselves of who am I? What is my gender? What is my gender role? Where do I fit in the world? Because that’s honestly an advanced level of introspection to expect of somebody who just wants to put on some panties and get off.

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Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. Sometimes you put on panties because it’s humiliating, and that turns you on. Sometimes you put on a pair of panties because it makes you feel whole.

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And I, and no one else, can look at you from the outside of your skin and know which one that is. That’s a you question. And if, in the moment, all you want to do is put on some pretty panties and paint your lips red and prance around and be called a dirty little slut because it turns you on? Okay.

Cool. We can do that. Sure.

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You don’t have to engage in introspection every single moment of your life. And even if you’ve been wearing panties because it turns you on and getting off on them happily, and then you have this lightning bolt moment of holy crap, I think I’m trans! What does this mean? You’re allowed to take a little mental break and go back to yeah, I’m just gonna wear the panties and jerk off. Because masturbation is good for you, it releases stress, and it makes you feel better.

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So… See? Tina says, I’m wearing a panty right now. Exactly. So gender is complex as fuck.

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Even if you’re cis. And there are far more intersex people in the world than you know you might be one of them. The only way to find out is to have a full karyotype done of yourself.

That’s where they look at your DNA and figure out what chromosomes you have and have your hormones looked at. It’s a little expensive just to be curious about things, but hey, it’s your money. Addie says, I can’t really remember how men’s underwear feels like.

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I mean, they don’t look sexy. Do what makes you feel happy, fulfilled, and content. And if you want to do some introspection, do some introspection.

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And if you take the test, sometimes you might get a response back and it can solidify things for you. See? Addie said, if it comes back as you’re 100% a dude, I don’t know if I’d like that answer. Uh-huh.

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Sometimes you get the answer back and you go, well, that’s bullshit. That’s wrong. And it can solidify for you that hey, welcome to the world of the trans people.

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Sometimes I wish I had a dick. And by the vastly expanded definition of what it is to be trans, uh, that makes me trans. I’m kind of okay with that.

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Because, no, seriously, sometimes I wish I had a dick. I think that’d be fun. Whore School is adult sex education.

Check out whoreschool.net because I have a new blog. It’s pretty. There’s a section on there where you can find transcripts for episodes.

I’ve got like ten up there, I think. So far. Um, yeah.

Check out my other blog, my main blog, fetishphonesexblog.com. Join us in Discord. Reach out to me. Um, it’s December starting, like, now basically.

So, uh, happy holidays slash I’m sorry. Be gentle with yourselves. Don’t spend too much money buying people presents.

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