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Whore School 472 Hedonism
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I do love my chime. It’s so friendly. You can hear that, right? You heard the chime.
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You know what that means. When you hear the chime go off, that’s your signal to go to communitykink.com because obviously the chat room is open. Everyone can come and join us.
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All are welcome because I don’t do that whole exclusionary shit. Everybody gets to come. Everybody gets to talk.
Well, not talk. I get to talk. You get to listen.
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But if you’re in the chat room, you can talk to me. Wouldn’t that be fun? So far I’ve got Mott, the apple, and Patty, the former sissy. Patty says, I’m trying it out.
Okay, go for it, baby doll. Whichever identity feels good to you today, we’re going to embrace. And in fact, we’re going to talk about hedonism tonight.
So it’s kind of in line. Me gusta. Why have I decided to talk about hedonism during No Nut November? For the obvious reasons.
Come on. You know why? It’s No Nut November. The time of year we’re directly following from Locktober, No Nut November, and Denial December.
We’re right in the middle of attempting to deny yourself. Now, yes, as I said, last week, sometimes denial is good for you. But I’m going to make that word sometimes do an awful lot of heavy lifting.
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Sometimes denial is good for you. And you can use it as a tool in order to increase your distress tolerance and build stronger willpower. Right? And those are both good things.
But let’s talk about hedonism. Which might seem to you as if it were the direct freaking diametric opposite of No Nut November. Denial.
So the AI overview, it reads a ton of internet sites, and it collates it down. And you know how I feel about AI. But you know what? Fuck you, Google.
Hedonism is the philosophical belief that pleasure or happiness is the highest good and the ultimate aim of human life. And that the goal of all actions is to maximize pleasure and minimize pain. That’s if you’re looking at it from a philosophical point of view.
And oftentimes hedonism is very philosophical. The Merriam-Webster dictionary says it is the doctrine that pleasure or happiness is the sole or chief good in life. Hey, Tina has joined us tonight.
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Hi, Miss Tina. How y’all doing? Y’all all good? You good? I’m good. I’ve had a very hedonistic day.
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Oh, and Sissy Addie too. Hello, folks. Patty said, why did I think hedonism was the old religious movement that said anything even remotely fun was sinful? Because hedonism is the exact opposite of Puritanism, which is the religious movement that says anything even remotely fun is sinful.
Puritans gave rise to purity culture. And I’m very certain you can all guess exactly how I feel about purity culture. And Puritans.
That’s how I feel about that shit. Strongly negative. A big fat noob.
Patty says, I don’t know if I’m thinking of Puritanism. Wasn’t there another one? Well, asceticism would also fall in there. Uh, Wikipedia has a nice article about hedonism.
It talks about psychological hedonism, axiological hedonism, ethical hedonism. Okay. They’re thinking about pleasure.
And anytime you start talking about pleasure, you have to talk about pain, because opposites. Right there. Oh, God.
Patty said, I don’t pay attention to religions, old or new. It’s not with my time. I have too much going on.
You should. At least enough to keep kind of a weather eye out. Because people who really, really believe in whatever their religious viewpoint is, it will motivate their behavior.
And if you violate what they think their religious doctrine says is supposed to happen, sometimes people can become a little bit unhinged about that. So you might, you gotta keep a weather eye out for the looney tunes. And he said, first of all, why has man given such importance to pleasure? Why man throughout the world has given this extraordinary importance to pleasure? Why? Continuing pursuing everlasting pleasure.
She says it’s the imprint of pleasure by Tubenberger. It’s an interesting song. Patty just doesn’t care.
Bitch, you are a hedonist. Don’t even. I’ll tell you why too.
So Patty is doing her own version of No Nut November, where instead of it’s just no nut, it’s reduced to nut. She only orgasms every other day instead of every day. Mott says, I’m a polyatheist.
There are many religions I don’t believe in. So if you orgasm every single day, because you like a lot of pleasure, right? Uh, then it’s very easy to say that you are definitely, like, undeniably a hedonist, because you never ever turn down the opportunity for pleasure. You avoid pain and you seek pleasure.
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That’s, that’s hedonism. The doctrine that pleasure or happiness is the sole or chief good in life. And that stupid fucking AI thing.
Pleasure or happiness is the highest good and ultimate aim of human life. And that the goal of all actions is to maximize pleasure and minimize pain. An awful lot of people are hedonists and don’t even fucking know it.
They are unaware of the fact that the philosophical point of view that they live their life from is that you should avoid pain and seek out pleasure. And that ultimately, so especially people who are atheists, they don’t believe that there is a God. So the point of life is not to obey God, to make God happy, to get into heaven.
Right? If you’re an atheist, you don’t believe any of that stuff. Patty says, well, then does that fall under the definition of religion? If it’s not like there’s no higher power you’re putting your faith in. It is a philosophy that a lot of people use to guide their life.
But since you asked, what makes a religion? Religion. Religion in itself is a range of sociocultural systems, including designated behaviors, practices, ethics, morals, beliefs, world views, texts, sanctified places, prophecies, organizations, stuff that relate humanity, people to the supernatural. So religion usually has a supernatural transcendental or spiritual element to it.
Hedonism doesn’t necessarily have to. Hedonism isn’t a religion, but it is a philosophy. Mahat says, at the last minute, I’m sure I’ll believe in God, just to be safe.
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There are an awful lot of people who convert on the deathbed, because all of a sudden, they’re like, wait, what if I’m wrong? What if, whoops, an awful lot of people reach middle age and have a midlife crisis and a mild freak out there and wind up converting. For an awful lot of people, it’s the first time they have their first brush with mortality, that all of a sudden they have a religious awakening, as they realize, someday, you gonna die. Everybody dies eventually.
And when you’re young, that’s way off in the future. But the older you get, and especially if you wind up with some kind of a health crisis or a health moment going on, oh, you start to contemplate things a little bit. I’m not saying that that’s bad.
I’m just pointing out that sometimes people take refuge in religion in times of uncertainty, or when they feel unsafe, or as if they need a little extra assistance. People take refuge in all sorts of religions, and they take refuge in a belief in the supernatural as well. Hey, Miss Cresta, I see you joining us tonight.
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And it says, I’ve been 80 years old since I was 15. And prisoner said, religion is the opiate of the masses, or so I’ve heard. That one is referring, of course, to the soporific effect of religion and the fact that if you wind up thinking that good things are rewarded after you’re dead, and that bad things are punished after you’re dead, it means that you don’t get upset or do anything about life if you don’t get the good stuff while you’re still alive.
And you don’t rise up against the oppressors while you’re still alive, because you think, well, they’ll get theirs when they die. And so religion is the opiate of the masses. Religion is used as a tool of the state in order to prevent people from demanding better conditions.
Prisoner says, also, I’m quoting Karl Marx. Yeah, I know exactly where that quote came from, and I am expanding upon it. Thank you.
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Mott said, wow. Why? Because I immediately knew what that was and expanded it? Yeah. Patty said, I mean, religion is a way to connect large groups of people under a common ideology.
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It can work a treat, but becomes a problem. And what the very old religions say about the world conflicts with established truths about how the world works. I wouldn’t even say that it’s only the old religions that have a problem in there.
It’s not. It’s also very young religions are prone to stupidity. Religion in general.
Christa says she has a 404 error. Make sure you’re not logged in. Oh, kick me off.
I’ll cry. I really will. I will sob.
Sissy Addie said, I think this point, all religions are old. Maybe not Scientology. Wicca was founded in 1956.
It’s not that old. It’s not even 100. So yeah, some of the religions, like it’s an actual religion, religion, tax exempt in everything, religion, very young.
Oh, okay. It was my link. My link was messing with Miss Christa.
I’m sorry. Addie said, oh, wow. Latina says Mormonism is not that old too.
Yeah, Mormonism is relatively new. It’s older than Wicca. Mott says all American religions are lame.
Well, we’re in luck because Wicca is actually from England. Ooh, burn. Don’t try to school me on shit.
I will get you. Everybody’s like, we don’t like religion. Yeah, I’m Buddhist, which is also a religion.
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Okay. So, hedonism. We’re going to talk about pleasure and pain and disgust as well.
Yeah. Christianity is not an American religion either. Weirdly though, Puritan Christian, that shit started in England.
And then the English people were like, you guys are massive buzzkills and also jerks. Fuck off. And so they left England and came to America and then fucked us.
So jerks, fucking Puritans, little weirdos. So, hey, Kylie joined us tonight. So, pleasure and pain are fundamental experiences about what’s attractive and what’s repulsive.
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And we’re going to get right down into, like, there’s some really good words that we can use. Wolfie Mischief has joined us tonight. My goodness.
Yes. Miss Krista said Puritan’s another name for those who suck in bed. So they outlaw all sex.
God, the number of times I’ve heard some political talking head or culture war pundant say shit like, well, my wife never gets wet. Dude, you’re just telling on yourself. Good Lord.
She never gets wet? You’re that bad? Yeesh. Prisoner said, in other words, old white men, some of them aren’t that old. Some of them are just that self-centered.
Like there are some young men who really suck in bed. Little shitheads. So, okay.
Pleasure and pain. You can think of them, both of them occur along a scale of continuity from null, nothing, to oh shit. Okay.
Too much of either pleasure or pain is a bad thing. And everybody has a limit where, okay, now we’ve crossed the line and it has become too much. And in fact, pleasure can become pain.
And for some people, pain can become pleasure. We call those masochists and also lots and lots of fun, says the sadist. If we’re going to talk about pleasure and pain in terms of philosophy, so, oh boy, oh boy.
Because then we’re moving from physical sensations into mental and emotional sensations, which, okay, bear with me here. Emotions are important. The way that you feel about a thing is really, really important.
And it motivates you in ways that it’s probable you haven’t really thought about. Think of pain and repulsion and disgust as kind of a gooey ball of ew off to one side inside your brain. Things that provoke a sensation of disgust in you can change the way that you behave because you will try to avoid the thing that has provoked the feeling of ew.
Okay. This means if somebody wants to try to control the way that you behave, they can do that by making you feel repulsed or by making you feel good about something. Hey, Ms. Michelle has joined us in the chat tonight.
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Y’all are up late. Why are you up late? Ew, gross. Patty says, so back to what? And then the chat moved.
Back to what we’re supposed to be talking about. Is this one about we need more or less pleasure? More pleasure, less pain, and also pay attention to when people are fucking around with your emotions. Okay.
So there are some people who are more prone to reacting out of a sense of disgust than others. And I’m going to carefully, carefully not name factions. Hey, Ms. Lilith, I see that you joined us tonight.
Hi. Long time no see. So I’m not going to name political factions or social factions either for reasons.
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Instead, I’m going to talk about some people are more prone to seeking feelings of comfort from the familiar, from a sense of order, and from a sense of structure. There’s nothing wrong with that. If it makes you feel happy to have your house clean and everything put away, great, wonderful.
If you appreciate very clear instructions and knowing exactly what you’re supposed to be doing at any moment in time, wonderful, fabulous. You probably would adore somebody who was a clear communicator who can come along and tell you, okay, here’s what you need to do. Oh, yes, please.
Thank you. Be aware that it becomes very easy to manipulate you and control you by playing with that. You like order and you like knowing what you’re supposed to be doing.
So if you get accustomed to following instructions, someone could slip in bad instructions and lead you astray. If you like order, someone could point out, hey, that person over there is trying to smear honey all over the walls. Get him.
Right? And then, oh, no, that’s gross and sticky. And now you’re upset. And when you get upset, when you become activated like that, when you are emotionally aroused, you’re easier to manipulate.
Pay attention to this and notice when a charismatic person tells you, I know how to fix this. I know exactly where we’re going. I know how to make everything better.
And it starts by getting rid of the people who are smearing honey on the walls. Look, they’re over there. Get them.
There are some people who find a great deal of pleasure in making up their own mind and thinking, Patty says, um, isn’t that what you’re doing? So who have I pointed out that has smeared honey on the wall? Patty’s telling us, you know exactly how to fix everything. One, I do know how to fix everything. Thank you.
I’m awesome. Two, I’m not going to tell you. I’m going to tell you.
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These are things to pay attention to and this is stuff to look for. And here is a series of things that you could do if you wanted to become better at doing whatever this thing is. I’m not going to directly instruct you on what to do.
I’m not going to say, this is how you do this. Now go do it right now or else. Because you’re not paying me to do that.
I only do that shit when I get money for it. That’s what makes me different from a charismatic authoritarian leader. I am charismatic.
I’m funny as fuck and charming and people want to do what I tell them to do, but I’m not authoritarian. Like I don’t, I don’t do that. Miss Michelle says, honey, I love a honey dripper.
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So it’s Miss Michelle. Mistress Michelle is the one who’s been smearing honey on the walls. It was her.
Patty said, I’m not being super serious. I hope this is all still lighthearted. Oh, it’s fine.
I’d be yelling a lot more if I thought you were serious. I’d be like you. And now Patty’s accusing me of being humble.
Ew. Oh, Lilith said it’s been a very long time and it’s an honor that I’m remembered. Forgive my absence.
Life has been very difficult, traumatizing and rather unpleasant. Boo. However, I’m hopeful I’ll be able to tune in more.
Good. I’m glad you’re back. Mom says last week was cheesecake.
This week is honey. Oh no, we’re going to keep Miss Michelle. I like people who smear honey on the walls.
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As long as they don’t smear honey on the walls in my house. Cause I, I have ants. Technically the neighbors have ants and they’re invading my house.
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It’s an ongoing battle. Fucking ants. Patty’s hearing things.
She said, I will say maybe it’s an internal thing, but a lot of your advice has kind of come off as you need to do these things. Like last episode about pain and stuff. I should work on that.
You shouldn’t. I just checked the pod bean chat. Sissy Katie over there said if hedonism is about making all your life about pleasure and seeking pleasure constantly, does that mean gooners are the ultimate hedonists? Yeah, kinda.
Prisoner said, are you keeping their house clean? I wish. I’m so tempted to make their house clean with fire. But, uh, we live in a society.
Krista says they are in the top five for sure about gooners being hedonists. Those fuckers. Literally.
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Patty said, I hate that gooner is a real world. Real word. Uh huh.
All right. So hedonists, generally speaking, want to only experience pleasure and never experience pain. That’s very simplistic.
And I will also point out nearly, if not absolutely, impossible to actually achieve. Wikipedia says hedonists usually adopt a broader view in which pleasure and pain cover any positive or negative experience. In this broad sense, anything that feels good is a pleasure, including the joy of watching a sunset, whereas anything that feels bad is a pain, including the sorrow of losing a loved one.
Ms. Michelle said, what if you enjoy pain as pleasure? See, that’s why it’s complicated. And Patty says you need pain in life to properly appreciate the pleasure, right? Oh, I see. You’re not really a hedonist.
So you can think of hedonists as an absolute hedonist. An absolute hedonist would say, I don’t need pain. I only want pleasure.
Only good things. That’s, um, I don’t think that that would be a good way to live your life because when pain happens, because it is inevitable, you would be left without the ability to tolerate it. We’re going to go back to distress tolerance from last week.
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Being able to withstand distress, which includes stress, pain, disgust, revulsion, upsetting things, bad feelings, is a sign that you are psychologically, mentally, and emotionally capable. You can handle that. Lucid Lilith said, doesn’t pinhead count as a hedonist? Yep.
If you define hedonist wide enough. Prisoner says that there is sports news. The Chargers defeated the Steelers 25 to 10.
Cool. Krista says, although a wise man once told me there’s no pain or pleasure, just sensations. Yep.
That’s how I think of it. It is just sensation. Pain can become pleasurable and pleasure can become painful.
You ever masturbate to the point where you’re like, and now I’ve rubbed myself raw and it hurts. Yep. The pleasure became pain.
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Patty said, it’s like one of those things that I know intellectually that pain is a necessary part of life, but practically I do my best to avoid a lot of uncomfortable sensations, situations, and feelings. Yes. Hedonist.
The trick is a hedonist can take it too far. If even the thought that this might possibly cause pain makes you so anxious or avoidant that you avoid all sorts of things on the possibility that it might hurt even a little bit, including things that are good for you. So some people are so aversive and avoidant for pain that they don’t go to the dentist, which in the short term, probably fine.
In the long term, oh no, your luxury bones go to the dentist, get those cleaned. That’s that’s so good. People can become so aversive to stressful situations and emotionally upsetting things that they don’t wind up having the conversations that they need to with their partners.
So something like, so you know that thing that you do right when you’re ready to orgasm, where you tighten everything up and you fuck really hard, really fast. That hurts. It is physically painful to me.
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And I don’t like it. And they avoid having that conversation. Right? Which is bad.
You should have that conversation. So if your partner leaves beard hairs all over the bathroom sink, and it’s slowly driving you insane, you have to have the conversation. You have to face the pain.
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You’ve got to face the pain and the revulsion and the stress of it and say, dude, what the fuck? Wipe that up. It’s gross. Just wax his face as a punishment.
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Absolutely. Hold still. He’s going to wake up with like half of one cheek waxed and he’s like, what? I was fixing the problem.
Hold still. You got to have the conversation. If you are so aversive to pain and discomfort and distress, that’s bad.
But also, if you are so chasing after pleasure, that you don’t stop. That’s also bad. Chris just said, that’s why I have tethers on my bed so I can complete the job.
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And Miss Michelle said, I like pain. So uncomfortable conversations are my jam. I’ve known people like that.
They’re like, oh no, I like making people squirm. Over in the other chat, Sissy Katie said, I’m a goonet hedonist. So, okay.
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In modern American and to also a matching degree, Canadian and Mexican culture, Mexico less, because thank you, Spain. Pleasure is often ignored. We are a very disgust and revulsion oriented society.
We’re all about avoiding the bad thing rather than embracing the good thing. So, it’s all about punishment. It’s all about how do we make it so that crime goes down, punish people who break the laws more.
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Right? Instead of, okay, how do we make crime go down? By providing positive outlets for people, pleasure, so that they do that instead of crime. Right? So, we punish people instead of motivating them through a pleasurable thing to not do the crime in the first place. Those places in the United States in particular are more familiar with the U.S. that have instituted things that are positive for a community have seen a decrease in crime.
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So, if you turn on the lights at the basketball courts for midnight basketball, crime rates drop. If you open food pantries, crime rates drop. If you provide rent assistance, crime rates drop.
So, criminals are all brats. Criminals are often desperate. Criminals have an unmet need that they’re trying to get met.
And sometimes that need is entertainment, which is pleasure, good food, pleasure, a roof over their head. Hey, that’s also kind of pleasant. We like having shelter, keeping the electricity on.
So, payment assistance for keeping your utilities turned on reduces crime. All of those things reduce crime. All of those things improve the quality of life for people.
And all of that is pleasure. It’s providing something good for people. Every time you make people feel more comfortable, more happy, more healthy, more pleasurable, they’re less likely to be shitheads.
Patty says, using the word criminal is a loaded term because it could apply to someone who just sat down somewhere because they were homeless and then got charged with loitering. Uh-huh. Which is why providing people with rent assistance cuts down on crime.
Rent assistance, more shelters, more soup kitchens, more food pantries, assistance paying electric bills and utility bills, all of those ensure that people stay housed, fed, and entertained. So, those are good things. Hi, Rockhard.
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Oh, the other chat, Sissy Katie said, my pleasure is all about giving my dom pleasure. And when you don’t have a dom, that’s the ultimate pain. Mm-hmm.
This Krista said, more jobs that are attainable to everyone in wages that are fair. Yes. Which is also pleasurable.
So, on a cultural level, oftentimes the culture of the United States in particular is Puritan. We don’t do pleasure. We do punishment.
The default thought is often punishment. Punish people who are naughty. How dare you not have a house? We’re going to punish you for it.
Instead of, oh shit, that sucks. How can we help you? How can we get you back in? Right? Patty said, one of the classes we had to take in high school had a unit where we needed to do something good for the community for class credit. Me and a couple of friends made sandwiches and meal bags and handed them out.
Hell yeah. First news is England doesn’t have Puritans because they sent them all here. Yeah.
They kicked them the fuck out. We were like, bye. And they came over here.
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And now we have to deal with their descendants and their philosophical descendants. It’s pervasive. So, as an ethical sex worker, I want us to embrace way more hedonism.
I want more pleasure in our world. And I want more pleasure in our shared world. I want us to take care of each other.
Maybe not sexually, but in all the other ways that count. Prisoner says, more hedonism, less shitheads. Yes, please.
And thank you. Fewer shitheads. Ms. Michelle said that would be quite the undertaking.
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Ms. Krista said, that’s why I have so many Eleven’s toys. I am all about the hedonism. Patty said, as a great wordsmith once said, people are people.
So stop being a little bitch about it and let people be happy. Yeah, people are people. Just, you know, get your nose up out of other people’s business.
As long as everyone is capable of and has given fully informed, freely given, enthusiastic, informed, reversible consent, then fuck it. Go do your stuff. Who gives a shit if everybody’s consenting? I don’t care.
I don’t care. Go do your thing. Go fuck a chair.
I, you know. So hedonism as a lifestyle philosophy can go sideways. I’m just.
But so does asceticism. I practice Buddhism. Guess what Buddhism does? The middle path.
Oh, I’m not going to proselytize at you. Buddhism doesn’t do that. I practice Buddhism and paganism.
But in Buddhism, it’s called the middle path. Because Siddhartha Gautama, right? The Buddha. It was a prince and his father didn’t want him to ever know that suffering existed in any way.
And so he would have his guards go through the community before he let his son walk down the streets and chase away all the homeless beggars so that he would never see suffering. He would never see any of that. And so he grows up and he is a spoiled, soft hedonist who always chases lots and lots of pleasure because he doesn’t even know pain exists.
Nothing has ever, ever hurt him. And he has never seen suffering in his entire life. One day, one of the guards missed one of the homeless people who was begging outside the gate.
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And the Buddha saw him, the homeless guy, and was like, what’s that? And when he figured out what that meant, he was like, you know what? I’m going to go become one of the ascetic people. I’m going to go be a guru. I’m going to go be an ascetic person.
I’m going to give away and give up all this pleasure. And so an ascetic, especially in India, was a street beggar. They would wear whatever they had until it was rags and fell off their body.
And if somebody gave them a new shirt, great, I’ve got a shirt. But otherwise, they’d just be naked. They would have a bowl and beg for grains of rice from people who were eating.
And that’s what they would eat. They were often very, very thin and very dirty. They would grow their hair extremely long.
And it was also that they could accrue positive credit, kind of. This is in Hinduism, which is pre-Buddha, in order to overcome negative karma. They wanted positive karma so that their next life would be better.
Okay. Eventually, the Buddha sat down under a tree and was meditating. And he realized that neither of those two paths, the pure hedonism that he was currently experiencing, neither of those were going to work very well, because they were too extreme.
They weren’t really going to get you where you needed to go. That somewhere down the middle would be better. Not pure hedonism, but also not suffering for the sake of suffering.
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You can eat a bowl of actual good rice. You don’t have to beg and grovel and debase yourself in order to make up for supposed bad things in life. Now, too much rice, too much fatty food, too much of anything is bad for you.
But not enough is also bad for you. Middle path. So that’s where the middle path arose from.
The Buddha had that realization, was enlightened, and then proceeded to first go get himself a bowl of rice and eat a full meal. And then he started telling people about what he had realized. And that gave rise to Buddhism.
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So Tina said, I’m more of a humanist than a hedonist. Pure hedonism can become self-centered, ignoring other suffering, and it can also undermine long-term happiness. Yup.
Yes. Absolutely, it can. Billionaires are hedonists, taken to the extreme, for example.
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Miss Michelle said, as a person raised to avoid pleasure and pain, hedonism opened a path to engaging pleasure on my own terms. I definitely see its drawbacks. No.
Yes. Yes. There are drawbacks to pretty much any philosophical system.
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And you have to be able to look at those drawbacks and recognize them for what they are, and then figure out for yourself a way around or through whatever those are, so that you can be happy and content with whatever philosophical system you wind up living your life as. So I’m ordained in the Church of Spiritual Humanism. In addition to everything else, spiritual humanism doesn’t really… You don’t… You can… Yeah.
Philosophy that blends humanism’s focus on reason, ethics, and human dignity with spirituality, basically. Reason, ethics, and human dignity are the really, really important parts. The spiritual stuff? Well, that’s just because there’s spiritual stuff that I believe in.
Patty says, even nudism has flaws? Oh god, yeah. Sunburn. I was at a festival, and it was a clothing optional festival, and this guy met a girl, and he was very into talking to her, right? Like, he was into it.
And he was… He’d been to the showers, right? And gotten all nice and clean, and so he was walking around, and he was buck-ass naked. And he winds up talking to this girl for a couple of hours, and then suddenly goes, oh, I forgot to put on sunblock. But he’d been standing there buck-ass naked the whole time, and he had a sunburn on his dick.
On his penis. Nudism has flaws. Kylie says, I’m ordained in the American Fellowship Church.
Best $3 I ever spent. Another $10 to become Pope Pez. Oh, Patty says, I can’t spell.
That’s not what I meant to say. I meant Buddhism. Of course Buddhism has some flaws.
Especially when… So there’s some places like Myanmar, or Burma, is a Buddhist majority nation that… There’s some flaws in there. Go look it up. Trigger warning for genocide, though.
Patty says, I’m surprised. As someone who practices it, you’d admit to that. When have I never admitted to a flaw? Why is that surprising? What the fuck? Patty said, every religious person I talked to has never been critical of their own religion.
Ever. Well, that’s their problem. I am critical of my religion.
All of them. Buddhism, spiritual humanism, it’s a little bit detached from the world, and they have a strong tendency to be like, oh, yes, we’re very concerned about ethics. Oh, I’m doing something about it? So for those versions of spiritual humanism that embrace also social responsibility, okay, yes, they do things about it, which are fabulous.
But they need to do more. But then again, everybody needs to do more. You know, there’s flaws in everything.
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It’s a personal thing that on an individual level, a person should work on. You got to work on it. You got to learn.
You have to be critical of. So even things like hedonism, hedonism and asceticism, Buddhism, Christianity, Judaism, Islam, you have to look at the flaws within it. You have to find the good things as well.
Mahatma says we are eternal. All this pain is an illusion. We are what we think.
All that we are arises with our thoughts. With our thoughts, we make the world. That’s the opening to the Dhammapada, the sayings of the Buddha.
So we are what we think. With our thoughts, we make the world. All that we are arises from our thoughts.
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Patti says we’re also flesh bags, but mind is important too. You can use your mind and the power of your thought to change your body’s reaction to both pleasure and pain. That’s what BDSM does.
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Submission and the mindset that submission can engender in people can cause that pain pleasure switch to flip so that all of a sudden pain becomes very pleasurable. That’s why people love an erotic spanking. We are what we think.
If you think to yourself, try this the next time you have to pick up something that’s hot. Like you’ve microwaved a burrito and now you’re like, I’m going to eat this, but it’s molten on the center and I know I’m going to burn my hand. Fuck, how am I going to pick this up? Oh my God.
Before you pick it up, say to yourself inside your head, the reason why I’m worried about picking this thing up is because it’s so cold. It’s frozen. It is ice cold.
It is absolutely frozen. And when I pick it up, it’s going to be so cold. It’s going to make my fingertips go a little numb and I’m going to freeze to it and I don’t want to.
Use your mind to think about how cold the thing is. So hot cup of coffee, whatever it is, and then pick it up. Just give it a try.
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Give it a whirl, experiment with it. You’re going to pick up a piece of toast and it’s really hot, like fresh out of the toaster oven, right? You’re going to reach in there and get ahold of it, put it on your plate, but you’re like, oh, it’s fucking hot. I don’t want to.
No, it’s not. It’s so cold. That’s why you don’t want to pick it up.
It’s because it’s too cold. It fucks with your brain just enough. If you can make yourself believe it, I don’t want to pick that up because it’s cold.
You’re not going to hurt yourself. It’s not that hot. It’s not hot enough to actually cause harm to you.
It’s a hot piece of toast. You’re going to be like, ow, oh, oh, bit my finger. That’s the extent of what’s going to happen to you.
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You’re not going to be, at the level you’re at, you’re not going to be able to actually pick up something that can cause you harm, but it can give you enough time to reach in, grip it, and move it onto a plate without getting burned because mind over matter is an actual thing. Patty says, but burns cause damage to your body. You’re still going to damage your hand.
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This is how people walk on hot coals. It’s not at the beginning level. This is the mental trick that you use to get to where you could walk on hot coals.
Patty says, oh my God, I was joking. Yeah, but I always take things seriously. Oh, okay.
But it really is. So mind over matter. Buddhism says, with our thoughts we make the world.
The way that you approach a thing affects how you experience it. So if you’re about to experience something that’s stressful and upsetting, if you can get your mind to think, okay, this thing isn’t that bad. I can definitely handle this.
This is no problem. And believe it, it becomes the truth. Especially when we’re talking about things like your emotional state.
So the pain, pleasure, happy dyad, right? You can transform uncomfortable things into at least neutral things, if not pleasurable things. So you’ve been avoiding going to the dentist, for example. You know you need to go.
You know they’re going to do the deep cleaning bullshit where they’re like, hold still. We’re going to scrape your teeth clean. And it’s horrifying and you don’t want to go because it’s gross and uncomfortable and it hurts.
Fuck this shit, right? Focus on your breathing and use your mind to change your experience of what is happening to you. And also, please embrace way more hedonism. Especially, honestly, politically, please.
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Prisoner said, fuck this shit. I’ll get dentures. You got to get all the broken roots extracted first, though.
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And that also sucks. Everything about your luxury bones, your luxury mouth bones, everything about them sucks. I read a study.
Prisoner said that was my dad’s dental philosophy. Dude. I read a study.
They, in the early 2000s, they discovered that women’s mouths are more acidic than men’s. And that’s why women tend to get more cavities than men do. I did not know that.
I was like, oh, huh. So we’ve known this for like 20 years. Have you noticed a preponderance of changes made to things like, I don’t know, dental coverage or recommended best practices for how often to go to the dentist or even the formulation of things like toothpaste? Have those changed in 20 years to accommodate the fact that some people’s mouths are just more acidic and therefore more prone to cavities? No? Me neither.
Huh. Patty says, I’ve never heard one person say both that they are religious and that they read studies in the same breath. I am religious and I read studies.
There, now you’ve heard somebody. Kylie said dental coverage? What’s that? A scam. Dental coverage is honestly a scam.
Pretty much every single dental coverage that you can possibly pay into, you will pay more into dental coverage than they cover in treatments. That’s a different rant. This shows it’s scams all the way down.
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Yeah. Luxury teeth bones. This is bullshit.
You can also go to any dentist and be like, hello, I have cash money. Does that change how much you charge? And they will go, yes, it does. Also go to different dentists in your town because they all have different fucking prices.
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Assholes. Okay. Embrace some hedonism.
Embrace a little denial too. Let it be happy. You know, that nice middle path, straight down the middle.
A little denial, a little hedonism. They’re both good for you. Just not too much of either one.
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