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Whore School 473 MBTI Revealed
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Tonight, I wanted to invite you to explore and enjoy the wide. Oh, no, you didn’t hear this dinger. Boo.
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We’re going to talk about personality tests. Why? Because I can, and because some people put a lot of stock in it. Can hear me typing yet more proof that I still can’t talk and type at the same time.
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Look, I’m a fully functioning adult human being. I can multitask. I’m capable of this most of the time.
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Did you hear it? Did you hear the stinger that time? I hope you heard the stinger that time. Yay. So, this is part of why I’m doing MBTI.
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In the chat, Tina Erin said, interesting topic, MBTI. They already have my point of view. Ooh, polarizing things.
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Love that for us. All right. We’ve got Kylie Gable has joined us, Patty the person, Pip Frosh, Sissy Addy, and, of course, Tina Erin are all in here.
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If you are listening to the live show, head to communitykink.com. Pip says, do I have to create a Podbean account to listen? Excuse me. I forgot I was on a live mic. Whoops.
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That was me belching. Please don’t turn that into porn. Patty said, did I miss something? What’s the polarizing topic? Personality tests.
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Everybody has an opinion. I can guess what yours is going to be. Let me talk to Pip Frosh.
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Patty says, oh, boy, here we go. I misspelled the word listen. Listen-y.
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Tina says, yeah, I thought of Patty’s point of view, too. You’re famous. Oh, my God.
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My goodness. Okay. You may be asking yourself, okay, what’s an MBTI? The Myers-Briggs Type Inventory is what it is called.
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The Myers-Briggs Type Indicator is a personality test. It’s a self-report questionnaire. And the Wikipedia page about it starts off by saying it is a self-report questionnaire that makes pseudoscientific claims.
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Which is why it’s polarizing. It will categorize individuals into 16 distinct personality types. You can go to 16personalities.com. That’s with the numbers.
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16personalities.com. It’s free over there. You can go and you can take the MBTI and find out where it thinks you fit. Patty.
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Patty’s learning some things. Patty said, I think it’s an interesting way to get a deeper understanding about yourself. Uh-huh.
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And then Patty says, I’m curious what Harper thinks about it. Wow. Oh.
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Okay. So, the Myers-Briggs. It’s named after the people who made it up.
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Katherine Cook-Briggs and her daughter, Isabel Briggs-Myers. Myers-Briggs. They were inspired by Jung.
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So, in 1921, Carl Jung wrote a book, Psychological Types. Um, okay. So, uh.
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Kylie Gable says, I do the DKTI. The Denning-Kruger type inventory. So, let me back up a minute.
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Carl Gustav Jung was a psychologist. And he pioneered an awful lot about modern psychology. He was really, really smart.
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He was, um, Swiss. He did analytical psychology. He wrote a whole bunch of books.
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He came after Freud. Um, Sigmund Freud, of course. And, uh, he influenced an awful lot of people who were interested in things like, um, the mind-spirit connection.
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So, he did a lot of that kind of stuff. He wrote about synchronicity. He wrote about the shadow self.
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He wrote about, um, the intersections between, um, spirituality and, uh, the mind and the experience of the world. Oh. Oh, Pip.
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Pip says, I can hear the volume was down. Ha ha. Merp merp.
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Kylie said, there are a lot of holes in Swiss psychology. We need to install one of those, like a sound board, so that I can just press a button and have it go da-dun-dun-tss. Hey.
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Patty says, I don’t know how I should feel that I apparently had others wondering how I’d react to polarizing topics. That’s probably not a good look for me. You, you, you do tend to, uh, respond strongly.
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Ha ha. Kylie says, a groan would be equally appropriate. Eh, a groan is awful close to applause, so, well.
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Ha ha. Okay, so, Myers-Briggs. Mother-daughter team.
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And they started coming up with their testing stuff. Oh, God. Very early 1900s.
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1917. Briggs, um, that would be Catherine Cook Briggs, decided to start studying the personality. So, if you’re a fan of people, right? Everybody has a different kind of a personality.
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And to a certain kind of mind, it is really, really comforting to think that you can, you can put people into discrete little boxes and kind of, okay, so now I understand this trait about you. And now I know how you will always respond and react to things because I understand this trait about you. And now I can label you and I don’t have to think about it anymore.
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So, for example, um, Patty said it’s the autism. Ha ha. General passion and how I approach the world or something.
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IDK. Ha ha. Something like that.
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The autism in particular. Uh huh. Yeah.
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Some people, there has long been a long standing conflict between people who said that autism is an entire personality or that autism is an issue with the way that a person interacts in the world. So, um, like a sensory processing disorder. Which one is it? Is it a personality thing? Or is it a sensory thing? So, people who are interested in personality, especially back in the day, would have fallen down on, oh, it’s a personality thing.
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Different types of personalities can be categorized in various ways. And then once you know how to categorize a person, then you know how to interact with them. And you know what, like, you can make a cookie cutter style world in which they have access to the things that will make them happy in life.
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So, the Myers-Briggs one is kind of interesting because it mixes young, obviously, and personality types. Introverts, extroverts, thinkers, judges, feelers, those kinds of things. Ms. Briggs started off bouncing off of Jung’s theories.
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And the articles that she wrote about it are a little bit interesting. She wrote first, Meet Yourself Using the Personality Paintbox, which is a very reductive and reductionist way of thinking about the elements of personality. But her other, her second article from 1928 is Up from Barbarism, which also tells you quite a bit about her approach to a personality.
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So, her daughter graduates from Swarthmore, and then they, I don’t know in what degree she graduated with, but it wasn’t psychology. They were, mother and daughter, both self-taught in psychometric testing. Psychometry is about measuring and testing people.
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So, I’m going to measure to what degree you are introverted. I’m going to measure and quantify your intelligence. So, IQ testing is involved in that.
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Introversion versus extroversion, and trying to make that something that can be quantified on a scale. So, psychometrics is very concerned with, I’m going to reduce you down to a pile of numbers. So, yeah, uh-huh.
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Patty says, When I took the Myers-Briggs test, I took the official, official test as part of a psychology class. Yeah, it gets passed around like that. And aside from the four-letter code, not terribly interesting, there was pages and pages of predicted behaviors of how you might approach the world and how to think.
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Not all of it was accurate, but a good chunk of it was. At the very least, it got me to really think about how I think, which was very valuable. So, that’s how I see these tests.
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Patty said, It was like 70% introvert, 30% extrovert. Yeah, and Tina says, By the way, I’m an INFP, but I think I’m more an extroverted introvert. So, yeah.
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He said, Back then wasn’t that before psychology existed. I think everyone involved in the stuff was either a psychiatrist or some other medical specialty. No.
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Neither Myers nor Briggs were psychologists or psychiatrists. Whoops. Neither of them were.
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They were self-taught in the field of psychometric testing. Psychometrics isn’t psychology. They wanted to measure the elements of a personality.
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That’s what they were looking at. They make surveys, they make questionnaires, and they try to reduce the elements of personality into something that can be graphed. So, first, it comes from Darwin and Galton and Cattell measuring individual traits of people.
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And then, they also wanted to measure things that are much, much harder to measure. They wanted to measure The reason why I’m kind of tiptoeing around this is because it very, very quickly quickly devolves into some very not cool stuff. And there’s a reason I just mentioned Darwin in particular.
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They wanted to measure intelligence. They wanted to measure amiability. They wanted to measure things like Are you a rational thinker? Or do you feel before you apply logic? Are you more prone to being swayed by a rational argument or by an emotional argument? They wanted to measure Patty says, don’t tell me you think Darwin was bogus in general.
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Darwin and his theory on the evolution of species? Yes. Yes. Yeah, that’s pretty damn close to a fact at this point.
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Darwin was also intensely racist. Like intensely. Very racist.
The reason why Darwin was interested in measuring things like intelligence was because he thought he knew what the answer was going to be and that persons of a certain skin color would score higher than others. So, the entire field of psychometrics is kind of founded on and by people who thought they knew what the answer was going to be which inherently introduces bias into all of the tools that they created. All of their surveys all of their self-report questionnaires all of their attempts to measure things are all flawed inherently systematically they are all of them.
They’re all real fucked up. So, if you’ve ever taken an IQ test I’m sorry to tell you that it didn’t measure what you thought it measured. An IQ test is an excellent measurement of your socioeconomic status.
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It’s a great way to measure your access to higher education your access to starting from pre-kindergarten. Your IQ test that you take is an excellent way to predict whose parents read to them as they were children. Right? Patty says, so every method to try and measure personalities is fake? All of them? No exception? Yeah, they’re all bullshit.
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They’re all intensely flawed. They’re all pretty much bullshit. I know, it’s so dreadfully upsetting isn’t it? It’s not accurate at all.
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I’m really sorry to break your heart like that. It’s not accurate. It’s a self-report questionnaire.
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Depending on your mood, you can change the results. That’s why, so earlier in the chat Tina was saying that I’m an extroverted introvert and somebody else was saying that their results have changed over time. Yep.
For one thing, the elements of personality that they’re attempting to measure are not static. That’s number one. Number two, the method that it uses in order to attempt to measure the elements of your personality is flawed because it breaks it down into a set of four binaries.
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And those arguably are not the building blocks of personality. Sorry. Those are some elements of some people’s personalities.
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Oh no, they absolutely do claim to be binary. Patty said in all caps, they don’t claim to be static and they don’t claim to be binary. Yeah, they do.
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I have too many fucking tabs open. Where did it go? This thing’s like, you have an ad blocker. Yeah, of course I have an ad blocker.
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Fuck off. Okay. Extrovert versus introvert.
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That’s a binary option. Each of the letters in your MBTI are linked to Where did they go? Where did it go? Right, here it is. Oh god.
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Whether you are an intuitive thinker or a rational thinker. Whether you go for intuitive feelings or if you’re just a feeler. If you are observant or if you are a judgy person.
And if you are sensory or a prospecting type of a person. So the letters where in here I have it concepts. Thank you.
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Because it’s four binaries. Okay. So it’s confusing as shit.
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Okay. Intuitive versus sensing. Intuitive versus observing.
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Feeling and thinking. Introversion and extroversion and perception and judging. Those are the things that this is supposedly measuring.
So it’s a pile of binary options. It was given to me in percentages. I was literally 50-50 for one of them.
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So yes, because it’s a binary but there’s the whole scale in between, right? But those specific things are not the only things that make up a sense of a personality. That’s not the only building blocks of a personality. It’s not all about do you rely on your intuition or do you rely on your senses or in your observations of the world around you? Or do you go with a gut feeling? There’s more to what makes up a person than just that.
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And that’s one of the major criticisms of it. There’s the four dichotomies and we even within the field of psychometry they argue about whether or not such a limited sample is enough to base anything on. Most people wind up somewhere in the middle of the scale which is exactly what you would expect.
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Right? Except for the whole thing where it’s introvert or extrovert and not ambivert? The vast majority of people are not… It doesn’t fucking work. So it’s not objective. It’s statistically flawed.
It’s structurally flawed. It’s built on a worldview that is itself flawed. But if it’s useful to you as an individual human being it’s still useful.
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Patty says, I don’t care if you think it’s fake. Reading how the different types approached thought helped me make sense of my brain and have a deeper understanding of how I think. It helped me.
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Hi Mott. Mott has joined us. And then Patty says, you’re telling me that trying to categorize the way someone’s personality affects how they think has absolutely no merit whatsoever.
Not at all. Some. And then Patty says, don’t read that like I’m being sassy.
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You are being sassy though. At least you are in text in the way that I read you. So, no.
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It does have merit. It absolutely has merit. People have always, from time immemorial, people have looked at the world around them and looked at themselves and gone, what the fuck dude? And tried to figure out, who am I? So of course the reason why the field of psychometrics exists and the reason why Briggs and her daughter Myers were like interested in this is because it’s a very human thing to go, wait what the fuck? Because how do we describe ourselves? How do we look at ourselves and understand who we are? Tina Erin says I searched what is the most used personality test in scientific study? And apparently it’s the big five factor.
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Experience conscientiousness, extroversion, agreeableness, and neuroticism. There’s other models yes, but the big five remains the most widely accepted and scientifically grounded framework in psychology. Yep.
The thing is, for things like this you want it simple enough that people don’t have to take a 500 question fucking thing to try to understand themselves. But you also want it to have enough utility and nuance to encompass the vast majority of people. So the Myers-Briggs type inventory like the big five factor and exactly the same as astrology if they help you understand yourself better, then they are good.
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Even if they’re a little shady. Even if they’re not exactly scientifically on the up and up in terms of rationality. Patty said except one is based on more data than the other.
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Barely. One is based on two women’s self-taught skills and a lay person’s understanding of young whoops. Pip says my psychologist had me take a test and then said I was a raging psychic.
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But I didn’t understand what psychology has to do with predicting the future. If it’s useful to you, it’s useful. It doesn’t have to be rooted in complete 100% rational, cold hard logic.
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I’m impressed as fuck that you like the MBTI, Patty. Largely because of your extremely negative reaction to astrology. If you want to experience even more shit.
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Sissy Addie said you talking about shady made me immediately imagine a Mercury retrograde in a raincoat. Hey, kid, wanna buy some personality? Nothing. I’m trying to remember what it was called.
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Because now, of course, my brain goes, no. Oh, the Enneagram. Yes.
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The Enneagram. Which is yet another of the pseudoscientific personality types. So the Enneagram is a personality system and it categorizes people into nine types with your core motivations, your fears, and your desires.
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It’s a reformer, helper, achiever, individualist, investigator, loyalist, enthusiast, challenger, and peacemaker. It’s a whole thing. It’s psychology for people who like to take tests and it’s astrology for people who don’t trust the stars.
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She was searching for the other test. Hexaco personality model is a scientifically validated personality framework consisting of six major dimensions. Honesty to humility, emotionality, extroversion, agreeableness, conscientiousness, and openness to experience.
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It adds the honesty humility dimension. Yeah. Pip says there are ten types of people.
Those who understand the binary and those who don’t. Patty says crucially one is more flexible. Patty said one’s looking at the stars and saying this is who I am and the other is answering questions about how you think and getting a vague answer of how your personality is built up.
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That’s not how astrology works. At least not modern astrology. Modern astrology isn’t that you look at the stars and go this is who I am.
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Modern astrology is you look at the stars and you go oh that helps me understand who and what I am and how I am in the world. Patty says you can sound pretty condescending sometimes. Sorry? I’ll work on that.
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There’s a reason why I’m saying modern astrology instead of ancient astrology or old fashioned astrology. If you go back into the 60s and 70s and maybe even the 80s and 90s a lot of people were using astrology in an extremely limited and stupid way. They went with sun sign astrology and only sun sign astrology.
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So that’s that one where people are like well I’m a Sagittarius and that means I’m a free spirit. It’s extremely limited. It’s looking at only one part of your chart in a limited sort of a way and it’s wrong.
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It’s wrong. Your sun sign is not who you are. I wasn’t going to talk about astrology tonight but I guess I am.
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Off the cuff. No research. No tabs.
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Patty said that’s what I think of when I think about astrology. I know and it’s a pain in the ass. People who’ve actually studied astrology are like god damn it! Fucking sun signs! So each placement on your chart governs a specific area of your life.
Sort of. Each of the houses. So there are 12 houses.
You can think of your chart it’s a big circle, right? And you can divide it into 12. Six on one side, six on the other. There are four quadrants that each have three houses.
Each of the houses is one area of your life. Sitting inside those houses are your placements. So it’s the sun, the moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars.
Those are the interior planets. Saturn, Jupiter. Those are the exterior planets but they’re still the classical ones.
And then there are the modern planets, and I’m putting planets around with quotes on it because we’re using this for astrology and not astronomy. Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto. Some people for astrology they add more things on there, up to and including hypothetical points or placements in the sky.
So the ecliptic is, if you think of the solar system as like a plate, right? The moon rotates around the Earth. Think of the moon as sitting on a plate, and the plate passes through the center of the Earth. That’s the ecliptic.
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Sometimes the moon is above or below the ecliptic. The point at which it crosses the ecliptic that is a specifically calculated point in space that can be used on a chart to indicate something. It’s called either the north node or the south node, depending on if the moon was passing from north to south or from south to north when it crossed the ecliptic.
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Okay. Okay. So yeah, he’s like, but my sun sign! Patty says, what is it based on? What is it that decides which ones you’re in? The thing that decides where things are is when you were born.
So at the moment of your birth, the stars and the planets were in specific locations. We know where they were based on when you were born. We can look at, it’s called an ephemeris.
We can look at that and go, ah, I know exactly where this was. Now, the 12 signs of the zodiac do, they used to correspond to specific constellations in the sky. They don’t anymore.
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It is now theoretical because astrology is not astronomy. It’s based on the solstices. So it starts at Aries in April for the equinox, the spring equinox.
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That’s when you start measuring. That’s when the year begins for astrology. The time and place of your birth dictate what goes on your birth chart.
We can also look at what does the sky currently look like right now. I stopped listening when it came to astrology. I know it’s incredibly complex, which is why people were breaking it down into just the sun sign.
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You only look at one thing. That must be my entire personality. No.
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There’s so much more to it. There’s all 12 houses. There’s all of the placements inside of those houses.
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All of that interacting with one another. That’s where all of the fun complexity and nuance comes from. Your sun sign is like your ego.
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Your sun sign is who you want the world to think you are. And that’s it. It indicates how you interact with the world.
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That’s all. That’s the only thing it interacts. Your moon sign indicates your interior life, your interior emotional life.
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Your Neptune placement tells you about how you experience creativity in the world and what your dreams are. Anything that you have in the sign of Pisces tells you about your psychic abilities. Which house is any of that in? That’s also important.
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All of this is important. Sun sign astrology is the shit that you read about in the newspaper where it goes, Libra, today you’re going to have a good day and you should look out for strange men with green shirts. It’s a pile of shit.
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Sun sign astrology is the MBTI. It’s useless. This is definitely a pseudoscience at best.
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Yes. It frequently is. So is the MBTI.
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They are equal. God damn it. Because if you get value out of either astrology or the MBTI or any of the other personality tests then it’s useful and valuable to you.
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It doesn’t matter if it’s not scientific. But they’re not scientific. Neither of them are really.
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You can’t graph the MBTI results against reality. You can’t prove it. It’s absolutely unprovable in the same way that astrology is absolutely unprovable.
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But it can still be valuable to the individual people who get interested in it and study it and enjoy it. Tina Erin says Estimates of how much the personality assessment industry in the US is worth range anywhere from 2 to 4 billion dollars a year as of 2013. Ciciati says billion? That’s insane.
Yeah, and it was 12 years ago. That number has gone up. There’s been money in personality assessments.
Especially because an awful lot of corporations bought into it. If you’ve ever, ever, ever seen somebody say, well, I’m a type A personality. I am just made to be a leader at work.
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That’s off a personality test. That’s where that started. It started sometime in the 90s because I remember my mom took one of those and it was paid for by her work.
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I was like, look, everybody knows that you’re kind of a tight ass butthead. We didn’t need you to take a test to prove it. So, personality tests.
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Big business. So is astrology to a lesser degree, but also still big business. Nice money if you can get it.
If you ever want me to look at your chart, I’ll absolutely do that, but not for free because do you know how much work that is? Holy shit. There are so many things to look at. I charge for that.
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It’s way too complex. And also, I can make money off of it, so fuck it. Patty says, you’re not supposed to use it to put yourself above others.
Literally, it’s just to try and self-reflect on how you think. Yeah. I’m gonna break it to you really gently.
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People use the stupidest bullshit to make themselves feel better and more important than the other people around them. I’ve seen people use their fucking star sign as a reason to feel superior to other people’s. That’s your literal birthday.
It’s the easiest of the signs to figure out because you look at your literal birthday and there it is. It’s right. I get so irritated about fucking sun sign astrology.
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I’ve seen people who are like, well, so-and-so is a Scorpio and therefore they’re just the worst. No. But in my defense, all you other people bully us without a reason.
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Tina says, I got caught up in reading the Wikipedia article in depth. I know. Some of these Wikipedia articles, you’re like, oh, damn.
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I love the power of a motivated nerd. Patty says, I’m definitely being a bit too insensitive and I should have just toned it down. Deep breaths.
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Batman said, sun sign astrology is a scam, like the Psychic Friends Network. If it’s useful to you and you can avoid being too much of a dick about it, go forth. Enjoy your MBTI.
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Go. Do what you’re doing with your life. It’s all good.
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I just took the 16personalities.com test again today. I have a new response. It used to be INFJ, which is supposedly the rarest of the personality types.
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INFJ, like, ooh, super duper rare. We will not discuss how many of the people who work for LDW Group are INFJs because it’s like all of us. But today, I came out INFP dash A. I don’t know if that’s important or not.
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There I go. Oh, okay. I’m 79% introverted.
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I’m 85% intuitive. 65% feeling. 56% prospecting.
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68% assertive. And it indicates that my purpose in my professional life, I have a need for meaning and purpose. Honestly, who doesn’t? I thrive in environments that allow me to express creativity, help others, and stay true to my values.
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Uh-huh. Careers in counseling, teaching, writing for the arts. Uh-huh.
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Part of why I’m making sarcastic noises at that is because it is an incredibly surface-level read, and it’s very, very flattering. Anytime you read something like that that’s extremely flattering, it’s talking about all your good traits, and it’s like, oh, this is all. You bring beauty and kindness and authenticity into the life.
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Your journey is one of balancing your rich inner life with the demands of the external world. Uh-huh. So, it’s called the Barnum and Bailey effect.
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Sorry. Flattery. Confirmation bias.
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It’s highly desirable, it’s vague, and it’s widely applicable. Tina says, INFJ and Enchantrix? Oh, yeah, a bunch of us. Because several years ago, we, as a company, all took the MBTI, so everybody’s done the official test.
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We’re all fucking INFJs. It’s really funny. Pip Frasch said in high school, one of my biology classmates said, I’d love to fuck a Scorpio.
And when one of her classmates asked why, she said, because so-and-so is a Scorpio, and I want to fuck him. Yeah. So, my advice for things like a personality test, take it with a big ol’ fat grain of salt.
Just like astrology. Don’t buy into it. It’s not 100%.
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It’s for entertainment purposes only. I read tarot. I think it’s really cool as a tool for self-reflection, not as a means of telling the future.
It’s a tool for self-reflection. That’s all that it is. That’s how I use it.
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It’s a tool for helping you think about stuff. Because sometimes when you lay a card, you might go, you know what? That’s utter bullshit. And it’s helped you because now you’ve clarified some of your thinking around this.
And sometimes you read an MBTI description and you laugh your ass off because that’s the vaguest pile of brown nosy bullshit I’ve ever seen in my life. And no, I’m not going to give you money to unlock more of my results. Because like Tina pointed out, it is a multi billion dollar industry and they want your money.
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Be mindful of your high blood pressure. Salt is potentially problematic. It’s true.
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So anything that is relying on confirmation bias, it’ll get you. And it’s hard to spot. Because you want to agree with it.
You want it to be true. And Patty said that at first some of the things I read about my results I saw as negatives and then eventually came to accept as positives through therapy. Which, therapy? Yes.
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And people who, so if you are resistant to an idea at first and then you come to believe it, it’s the conversion effect. People who convert into a religion as an adult become the most die hard believers in it. Because they have been convinced and now it’s so much harder to change that belief.
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Once you have converted as an adult, you’re more likely to become a die hard. Your belief hardens around that thing. And it’s harder for you to accept criticism of it or changes to the thing.
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Not impossible. Harder. It’s more difficult.
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Ciciatti said, ooh, that’s interesting. Yeah. It’s a thing.
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It’s a known thing. Adults who, so if you’re an adult who converts and becomes Christian, they’re probably never going to abandon that. Like, they’re all in.
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Pip says, I was a die hard evangelical growing up. As a result, the opposite happened. Yep.
Well, when we talk about religions like that, or belief systems, atheism is a belief system. Gnosticism is a belief system. Whatever it is that you accept as your belief system as an adult, you’re more likely to harden in on that and it becomes harder to change and harder to shift about yourself.
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Patty says, I mean, like, one of the things I read was how I might question a lot of things and play devil’s advocate for the sake of dialogue, which was true, and a thing I hated about myself. Because as you’ve seen, I’m very argumentative. Well, that’s just a part of my brain.
I can’t just sulk about it. I mean, you can sulk about it. You’re allowed to kick your feet and cry.
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Pip said, it becomes harder and harder and harder. Wait, what were we talking about? Tina said that the tarot reading I gave has yet to come true. It’s six months or so.
Give it six months. So, yeah. Grain of salt.
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Grain of salt when it comes to any personality test. And do not take it as motherfucking gospel, because it ain’t. It’s not.
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One, your personality can and will and does change over time. Your self-image of yourself will change over time. Your understanding and view of your place in the world changes over time.
So, your personality test results are not static. They will change and shift over time. It happens.
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That’s okay. It’s a good thing. It’s supposed to.
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We mature. We grow and change over time. We are not static marble sculptures.
We exist. We change and are changed by the world. There is no such thing as an absolutely perfect tool that you can use to tell you about yourself.
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They’re all flawed. Astrology is flawed. Tarot is flawed.
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The MBTI is flawed. All of the personality tests are flawed in some way. Some of them are flawed in much more obvious ways than others.
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That’s okay. So, for example, I know that the IQ testing is a better indication of socioeconomic status than it is of actual ability to learn. And yet, big number make happy.
Human brains are weird and fucked up. And sometimes we absolutely will take a personality test and be like, I’m the rarest kind despite knowing rationally. That’s dumb.
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It’s okay. We’re allowed to believe dumb things sometimes as a treat. You don’t have to look at the whole world through a completely rational lens forever.
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Patty says it’s too much to go into here, but the history in modern applications of IQ tests is much more nuanced than a lot of people realize. They’ve definitely tried to fix some of the issues with IQ testing, but there’s still some pretty systemic flaws in the entire system. Patty says it’s not supposed to be an analog for general intelligence.
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They never claim to be. I know. It’s supposed to be a measurement of how well you’re capable of learning things, which also means the older you are, the higher your IQ number can potentially be, provided your brain and your mind remain elastic enough because it takes your age into account, at least in modern versions of the IQ test.
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Which is why my IQ now is higher than it was when I was in college. Suck it. Pip says the entire premise of IQ is wrong because intelligence is not linear.
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Yeah, it’s also not linear, and there’s entire types of intelligence that it does not test for. There’s emotional intelligence, there’s physical intelligence, there’s mechanical intelligence, there’s all sorts of types of intelligence that the IQ test misses entirely. That’s okay.
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Sissy Addie said physical intelligence. So like people who are say contortionists or belly dancers who can do isolations. Have you ever watched a belly dancer sit there and like move one rib? Trying to tell me that’s not a type of physical intelligence.
It’s the ability to manipulate the physical body and just knowing what they’re doing. So extreme athletes often have very high physical intelligence. And obviously an IQ test doesn’t measure that.
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So a mechanical intelligence would be the person who I’ve seen people who are completely illiterate who can look at a machine and go, oh yeah I know how to take that apart and put it back together again and fix whatever was wrong with it. Like how the fuck? What the shit? How? Witchcraft. It’s just a different way to look at intelligence.
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There’s also been multiple tests and studies done on specifically IQ tests in groups and communities that had entirely different cultural backgrounds than ye standard northern American slash European who scored extremely low on IQ tests because oftentimes the questions that are asked are slanted. So anyways. Personality tests.
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Are they bullshit? Yeah. But that’s okay. As long as you’re aware of the fact that hey, they’re kind of bullshit.
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But take it with a grain of salt. Have fun with it. Do not build your entire personality and your sense of self and value in the world based around what number you got on a test or what set of letters you managed to get to yourself.
Like just no, don’t do that. They’re useful for self introspection. And if you ever want to find out what your Mars sign is or your Venus sign I’m just saying I know what those mean and it definitely has to do with your drive and your sex drive.
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So horse school is adult sex education with occasional forays into other weird shit because I can and I want to and you can’t stop me. Thank you guys for listening tonight. I will be back again next week.
I had somebody who asked me a question and so probably next week is going to be about FUDA and furries and a who cow. So keep an eye out for that. Thank you all for listening and I will be back again with more sex education and that, yeah, it’s kind of a thread.
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Good night.
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