WS 512 How To Size A Bra

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WS 512 How To Size A Bra

 

On August 16, 2026 Ms Harper discussed, in depth, how to size a bra! Whether you’re a sissy, feminization fan, cross dresser, drag queen, or woman (cis or trans) who just needs a better fitted bra, this episode is the one for you. From how women’s clothing sizes have changed over time to how to measure yourself for a bra, learn the details of getting your outfit to look its best right here.

 

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There goes the stinger! When you hear the boong, it means Whore School is on the air and you should come over here. Come on, come here. Come over here to discord.gg slash Enchantrix Empire and join me.

What up, homies? There, I think I’ve got that sent to everywhere. I have too many social medias. Oh lordy, y’all.

We’re gonna talk about how to measure and size a bra tonight. That’s right. This is because somebody last week, I believe it was Miss Addie, asked how to get a bra that fits.

And frankly, I can’t answer that in like the two minutes left in the show. The question was asked. I was like, that’s more, that’s a long topic.

So here, now you get an hour about bras. That means that all the sissies, feminization fans, and crossdressers are going to be having boners. Boing goes the boner.

That’s cool. We don’t mind. I had to check, make sure my levels were correct all over the place.

Oh, this is Whore School. Hi, I’m Harper, your host, your teacher, your favorite professional phone sex femdom. Whore School is adult sex education.

I’m gonna educate you. This is actually a threat. Brace yourself.

Knowledge. You know what? I need a new strap on, and I’m going to name it knowledge. Yep.

So that I can shove it. So Whore School is no fear, no guilt, no shame, adult education. Because fear, shame, and guilt inhibit learning.

They inhibit you learning new things because they fill you up with, you know, negative things. And when you’re full of negative things, there’s no room for learning new positive things. So far, tonight in the Discord Enchantrix Radio channel, I’ve got Addie, hey, Callie, Nick, the prisoner, Poovie, and Tina.

How do y’all? How y’all doing? Y’all good? It’s all good, right? I’m good. Okay. I’m gonna, I’m gonna start by talking a little bit about, Addie said, what fills me up with negative things.

Fear, shame, and guilt. Those are negative things. Talk a little bit about women’s fashion history.

Because it’s a pain in the ass, and this is kind of a thing, and it plays into why bra sizes are measured the way that they are. There is no singular standard for sizing for clothing anywhere in the fucking world. Sorry.

This means if you go online and you’re trying to shop and you look at something that says it’s a medium, a medium from one brand is not the same as a medium from a different brand. It is confusing as shit. In addition to the fact that there is no standard for sizing across the entire industry, it is brand by brand, and sometimes it’s not even by brand.

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Okay, this is ancient knowledge, but I used to work retail. And I worked, I worked in the mall. I know, it was terrible.

I worked in a department store. And while I didn’t actually work, okay, way, way, way back before I worked in jewelry, I did do, long forgotten, the forbidden knowledge. I worked in the juniors department of a department store.

And yeah, it sucks exactly as much as you think it does. So different brands have different sizing standards. And most of the time, if you find a brand that you like, and you know what size you wear, the odds are good that other things from that brand in the same size will fit you, probably.

But some brands are just shitheads. And they are not consistent at all. And as far as I can tell, somebody in the clothing manufacturer, looked at a magic eight ball, or rolled a dice to figure out what size is this? They roll the dice.

Oh, looks like it’s a three. Great. Those of you who are familiar with women’s clothing sizes, probably just cringed because of three.

Let me explain why that’s weird. Hey, Kylie, welcome to the show tonight. Yeah, prisoner says how many brands have a size 15 asking for a friend? Okay, here’s where it gets fun.

Even numbers in the United States for most women’s clothing, even numbered clothing. So a two, four, six, eight. Those are in the women’s sizes.

The odd numbers are in junior sizes. And there are very few brands that go all the way up to a 15. There’s a 15 is roughly depending on the brand, roughly equivalent ish to a size six, sort of.

Or four depends on the brand. Maybe a maybe an eight depends on the brand. And what it’s made of.

I wish I was kidding, but I’m not. Basically, if you want to know if that size pants are going to fit you, you got to take them to a fitting room and try them on. For an awful lot of women’s clothing.

That’s how you know if it fits. You put it on your body and then you go, huh, it didn’t fit. Or you put it on your body.

And you discover that it does fit, sort of. Kylie says I’m getting frustrated with all the ads for stuff on Discord lately. Ah, you don’t have Nitro.

Although I also have Nitro on my personal account. And on my phone, there are more ads. Nitro on Discord on a computer.

Knock on wood. No ads. Don’t tell people.

Don’t tell them. I’m just saying. And he says Discord has ads over there.

Everything has ads. Fuckers. Usually it’s for I’ve seen, if you completely sidetracked, if you go up to the quest section, you can earn orbs and then you can get the cool profile decoration stuff.

So like my electronic sparkles that appear around my talking avatar. Those things, the lightning bolts. Orbs.

I paid for that by watching ads on Discord. Hell yeah. I also do pay for Nitro.

I actually need Nitro. We use it to get the boosts to boost the servers that we have the really good audio quality. You’re welcome.

Okay, so women’s clothing sizes are fucked up. If you are shopping online, you are in luck. Most major brands have a website and somewhere on their website, they have a size chart.

Oh, we love a size chart. I adore a good size chart. Yes, please tell me exactly what size body this theoretically fits.

Keep in mind, of course, that there’s no there’s a monetary consequence for lying about what size your clothing is, in that people will buy it, it won’t fit, and then they give it back to you and go give me back my money, bitch. It doesn’t fit. You said this fits a 32 inch waist, and it doesn’t.

I have a 32 inch waist. And this does not fit. Give me back my money.

And so they have a financial motive that motivates them to tell the truth about what size their clothing is. Kylie says, Speaking of, I have to return these damn shoes before the deadline, right? Boo. Kylie said I forgot how difficult it was to fit a man’s foot into a pump compared to a sandal.

You’re gonna want to probably, the odds are extremely good, go for something in a wide. And they do make women’s pumps in a wide, like they exist. You can also just go ahead and get leather and take it to a shoe repair place and ask them to stretch it.

They soak it in chemicals, basically, and they soften the leather, and then they shove a shoe form into it with a spring inside of it. And so they can kind of crank it and stretch the leather. It’s pretty good.

It’s pretty smart, right? And it can make shoes fit better. How do I know this? I have short but wide feet. Thanks, Dad.

When I was in university, I was in ROTC. And I told them what size shoe I wore, and they handed it to me and I went, shit. But luckily, it was real leather.

And so I could go and have it stretched to make it work better. So sizing charts, absolutely fucking vital. Also, if you haven’t had your feet measured recently, go to a real shoe store that has a Bannock device.

Bannock or Brannock? Starts with a B, ends in a K. The fuck is it called? See? Now I’m like, how? Measuring device. Brannock. I was halfway right.

I called it a Bannock. I left the R out. Brannock device.

It’s the metal doohickey. And you put your foot in it, and it’s got these slidey doohickeys. And it’s so that it can tell you if you need a wide and exactly what size shoe you need to wear.

They have them in the women’s style and the men’s style. And honestly, nobody gives a shit. The vast majority of shoe places have them.

And you can walk in and be like, hello, I need the women’s shoe measurer. And they’ll be like, here you go. And you’d be like, great, thanks.

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Like, they’ll just assume you’re picking that up to go and measure for somebody who’s waiting for you over there. Who gives a fuck? And then you can measure your foot and find out what size shoe do you wear in women’s shoes, which are, thank God, standardized across the industry, in a way that clothing just fucking isn’t. There’s a myth that goes around every so often, that Marilyn Monroe wore a size 12.

She wasn’t skinny. She wore a 12. That’s huge.

Oh my god, enormous. Precious snowflake. That’s because in the early 1900s, sizing was actually fairly standardized.

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Because buying clothing, there wasn’t really brands yet. There were designers. But fast fashion, the way that we know of it today, didn’t exist then.

If you wanted a shirt, you went to a tailor, you had a shirt made. And because most tailors were working off the same sets of patterns, the patterns were all the same size. And so you could say, I need a size 17 shirt.

In men’s, men’s shirts are measured by the neck measurement, by the way. And you could also have it tailored and specialized for arm length, if you were unusually lengthy or short in the arm, or torso length, if you needed darts placed somehow. But it’s a tailor.

They could easily do that kind of work. And so Marilyn Monroe wore a size 12. Her measurements at the time, which we know exactly what her measurements were, her measurements would put her in a size 4 or 6 today.

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But as time came, the size numbers changed. Because women were like, 12. 12 is a really big number.

I don’t want to be in a big number. I’m going to be in a small number. And so with the rise of brands, and more people buying ready-made clothing, rather than making their own, you wind up with vanity sizing.

How fun is that? Not fun at all. So everyone said a thick neck, but a normal torso for me. So finding dress shirts that don’t make me look like a kite are fun.

Ah, the Cure had it tailored. Seriously, it shouldn’t cost too much. But if you’ve got like four dress shirts, and you take them all in at once, and you have them tailored, all they have to do is put a couple of darts into the side seams.

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Basically, they just redo the side seams to tuck them in. So that’s your thick neck and narrow torso fixed. It’s an easy fix.

I know how to do it. Most people who work for tailors, they know how to do it. If you’re looking for a tailor and you can’t find one, ask your local dry cleaners.

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Because odds are very good that either they are associated with a tailor, or they definitely know where a tailor is. And you can go and have your shit fixed. You can also have your pants hemmed.

Ladies, if you’ve got a big butt and a narrow waist, it me. You can have that fixed too. They put a duck, a little dart into the back of the waistband, so that you no longer have a big gap at the waist.

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I always hated that. Kylie said, for me, it’s pants that aren’t floods. I’m five foot eight, but I have a longer inseam than a friend of mine who’s six feet tall.

Yeah. It depends on the pants. But most pants, if you take it to a tailor, the way the bottom hem is constructed, it’s folded in most of the time in really good pants.

It’s folded in, and you can get at least another inch out of it most of the time. Not all the time. And if they’re cheap pants, yeah, good fucking luck.

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Okay, so how to measure yourself. I’ve mentioned a sizing chart. You need a tailor’s measure.

It is a cloth tape. I have one. It sits on my desk because I do crochet and I do knit.

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And so every now and then I drag this thing out and I go, how many inches am I supposed to do of stockinette? Shit. Two more. So a tailor’s tape is a tape measure.

They’re very highly accurate. One side of mine has centimeters and the other side has inches. I also have a tape measure that I keep around because it’s fucking hilarious.

The thing is faulty. It’s a piece of shit. It came with a pair of scissors and it was free.

And you can tell that it was free because every inch on it is an inch and a half. It’s got the, it’s wrong. It’s just plain old fucking wrong.

Um, it’s, yeah. So, um, just get a good tape measure. Any hobby store that sells stuff for people who sew will have a tape measure.

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Poor sale. Dritz. D R I T Z. Well respected brand.

Get theirs. It’ll be accurate. An accurate tape measure.

It is a flexible measure. Uh, usually a yard, yard and a half is what you can measure with it. So it’s three, four feet, something like that.

Plenty big enough to measure any human body. Um, and it’s on basically a plastic coated tape. So like cloth, like a cloth tape that’s coated in plastic or resin.

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Because back in the day, these really were on cloth that were then soaked in beeswax the same way that you would make a raincoat so that it would be water resistant, flexible, and not degrade, um, being handled and used a whole lot. It has to be flexible. It has to go around your body.

So they’re called a tailor’s tape or a sewing tape or a tape measure. This is not the same as the tape measure that a carpenter would use. You know, the metal, aluminum one that you pull out of this cool housing and then you click the button and it sucks right back up in.

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Those are hilarious. Not great for measuring around bodies. Fabulous for measuring wood.

Not that kind of wood. The other kind of wood. The wood that you chop and set on fire.

Tape measure. It should have, mine has metal on the ends. Um, mostly again to keep it from fraying.

Also so that when you like flick it at somebody, you can give them a little swat. It’s kind of fun. Tri-slit.

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We’re talking about getting a bra that fits. So measuring charts for clothing will tell you to measure at specific points on the body. Most people don’t know what those words mean.

So if you’re looking at measurements for a dress and it will say a bust measurement. Do you know what a bust is? It is the thickest part of your chest over your boobies. The thickest part of your anatomy right over the thickness of your pectorals.

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If it says waist, your natural waist on your body. It’s not where you wear your pants because various types and styles of jeans sit at different points on the body. Low rise jeans sit on the hips or just below the hips.

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If you’re very daring, like ultra low rise jeans are held up by glue and a wish. Those measure the thick part of your ass and pray. Addie says it’s really funny how many people think waists are the hips.

They’re not. No, it’s above that. For most people, if you locate your hip bones and then locate where your belly button is, usually it’s right around the belly button.

It’s the narrow part of your torso, the narrowest bit of your torso. Most people, like men who are in extreme shape, have a Dorito shaped torso. Broad at the shoulders and it narrows all the way down to the hips.

But just above the hips, above the hips by about two inches, maybe three, depends, like everybody’s body is slightly different. It’s slightly narrower right there. That’s your waist.

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Okay, that’s your waist. If it says to measure your hips, okay, you located your hips, right? The bony protrusions of your actual pelvis. That’s what that means.

Measure there. If it measures, if it says something like bottom or derriere or occasionally things will be like, this one’s measured off of your, off of your ass. The thickest part of your butt.

Everybody’s thick part of the butt sits in a different place. This is more for people who are tailoring things though. So most of the time you won’t need to get that measurement.

And yes, yes, it should be a larger number than at your hips because your ass, if you’re like me, you have an ample ass. And he says, I remember one trans investigator, those motherfuckers, they’re so stupid, saying something about women having wastes under or above, I can’t remember which, the belly button. And I was really confused.

It’s usually slightly above the belly button. Usually, but not always, because all human bodies are slightly different. Some women’s waist is at or just below the belly button.

It depends. Where’s your belly button? Because that can be in all sorts of weird places too. These are basic guidelines, basic guidelines.

Two or three inches above the hips should be your waist. That’s your waist. But if you want to measure a bra, there are measurements that you’re going to have to take.

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The under bust and the bust. Yep, your under bust. And for those of you who do not have boobies, and for those of you who have a more masculine body type, yes, you do.

You have boobs. You do not have as large of boob or tit or breast tissue as a woman. For whatever definition of woman, your boobies aren’t as big, but you still have them.

You have breast tissue, and it is possible for you to get breast cancer, gentlemen. I’m not even joking. I’m very, very serious.

You can get breast cancer because you have breast tissue. So if you have a family history of it, if your mom had it, your grandma had it, and all of your aunts had it, and your sister had it, go get checked, dumbass. You have breast tissue.

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One of the most common gender-affirming surgeries for men. Okay, I don’t want to mess this up. Google is going to be like, this woman, this woman.

Google searches the weirdest shit. This time, men boob removal surgery. I was correct.

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Gynecomastia. So gynecomastia surgery is the removal of excess breast tissue, usually for men, and it’s for dudes who go through puberty and start developing breast tissue. XY chromosomes.

They think of themselves as a man. They are a man. They present as a man.

They grow boobs. It happens. It happens to a lot of people.

You can go have that removed. Problem solved. It is gender-affirming surgery.

I’m just saying. Prisoners as men who do not have large boobs, wait until you’re in your 60s for them to develop. Yes, because it’s controlled by your hormones, and when you’re in your 60s, you’re going through the change, honey.

Basically, your hormone profile shifts just enough so that you can start to develop titties. You can also get breast cancer. So if you develop a funny texture across your entire chest, and your breast tissue, by the way, can run from your armpit across your entire chest, and folks who are femme, it doesn’t matter when you developed your breasts.

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If you developed them going through puberty when you were super young, or if you developed them because you went through puberty mandated by taking lovely hormones and grew your own boobies in your 20s, 30s, 40s, 50s, 60s, you can still wind up with breast cancer, and you need to check your tits if they are. If you suddenly have a hard, funny lump, that’s a problem. Go see somebody about that.

If the skin across your titties suddenly seems to look like an orange peel, like, picture it in your head. You know what an orange peel looks like, right? How it’s kind of pitted and rough and weird looking? If your skin does that, go to the doctors. Like, right now.

Go. Go this week. That’s a problem.

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If your nipple moves, go to the doctor. If you have a family history of breast cancer, go to the doctor. You can also have genetic testing done to make sure.

So see, do you have the genetic markers that say, hey, you’ve got a family history of this, and you carry BRCA2. If you’ve got BRCA, go get them tits removed, baby. You can get fake ones put in.

It’s fine. Okay, so you’re going to get out your handy dandy tailor’s tape. You’re going to measure your underbust first, without wearing a bra.

Or, if you wear a bra, not a push-up. Okay? Natural, au naturel, titty confirmation. Okay? Let them sag.

Let them, just, they exist. Okay? Boobies. Your underbust is literally under the boob.

At the ribs. So, on the ribcage. Right under your titties.

And if you’ve got to lift your titties, that’s okay. Lift them a little bit. That’s fine.

Some people’s boobies sag. Deal with it. Gravity exists.

Oh no! You want to keep your tape measure parallel to the floor. So, do this in front of a mirror, so you can check yourself and make sure. It needs to be no further down in the back than it was in the front.

It needs to be parallel to the floor, around your torso. Just, your marker is under the titties, at the ribcage. Okay? So, that’s your first number.

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Bras are sold by the even number. So, if you have an odd measurement, if you measure and you’re like, oh man, it’s a 35. What size bra do I get? Go up a size 36.

You want a 36. That’s your band size. And this is true for all bras.

You’ll want a 36 for the band. Your second measurement is across your bust. For this one, again, keeping your tape measure parallel to the floor, you’re going to measure the thick part of your titties.

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The biggest part. If you’re asymmetric, if one is bigger than the other, doesn’t matter. You’re measuring the accumulative size there.

Now, this does matter if you are very asymmetric. If one is significantly larger than the other. You’re going to still measure, you’re still going to get your bust size, but it means that when you’re shopping for a bra, you’re going to have to try on a couple of different sizes to try to find something that’s going to fit the big tit.

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Okay? Not the little one. The big one. I’m going to come back to this.

You’re going to wind up with two different measurements. Okay? Your bust is bigger than your underbust. And this should be true even if you have a very masculine chest that does not have large amounts of breast tissue.

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And he said, that poor little tit. It just rattles around in there. It’s fine.

No, we never let it rattle. We’re going to fix that, but that’s for later. Don’t worry, I’m coming back to it.

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Okay. Every inch of difference is one cup size. Right? So, if you measure and your underbust is 35, but your bust is 36, you would wear a 36A cup.

One inch. And he says, oh, that’s what the cup is. Yes.

Every inch of difference is one cup size. Okay? So, if you have a 35 for your underbust, remember you go up to a 36, and then that one inch difference, A cup. Okay? That’s the size that you would wear if you were not adjusting the size of your boobies by using falsies or a chest plate or stuff in your bra.

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And he said, ugh, fine, I’ll get naked. You can do it over your clothing. The thing is, don’t wear an underwire bra and don’t wear a push-up bra while measuring for your bra size.

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Okay? You can wear a t-shirt or something. You just want them natural, because both an underwire and a push-up lift and separate and plump things up, and now you’ve got false numbers. You’ve got fake numbers off of that.

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So, if your first number’s measurement is a 36, and your second number is a 40, you wear a 36B. The cups are by letters, just to keep it much more simple when you’re shopping. Okay? So, and you can easily count it on your fingers.

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Okay, here’s where it gets funny. Prisoner says, A stands for almost boobs. Eh, technically they are tits.

B for barely there. C for can’t complain. D for dang.

Double D for double dang. E for enormous. F for fake.

G for get a reduction. And H for help me, I’ve fallen and I can’t get up. Close, close.

Double D is E. But they named it a double D? Really, it depends on the brand. Sometimes a double D is halfway between a D and an E. But most of the time, double D and E are the same thing. Most of the time, for most brands.

It’s going to depend on the specific brand and what they decided to do with double D. But double D equals E. And bra sizes, so one of my favorite places to go, the Lane Bryant, because they have bra sizes for very large people. Okay? Including crossdressers, drag queens, and trans girls. They have band sizes ranging from a 34 inch band to a 54 inch band.

And cups, B through K. Count it with me. A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K. It’s an 11 inch difference. Addie said, how was it again? Every inch is a letter.

Yes, every inch is a letter. Really, really big boobies. Some people really do have natural tits that big.

Seriously, big naturals happen in huge sizes. You want to see somebody who’s got tits the size of your head? Well, there you go. Addie says, it doesn’t sound right.

I’m suspicious of mine. Make sure that you’re measuring parallel to the ground. You’re going to go under.

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So imagine that you worked out a whole lot and you looked like Chris Evans, right? And you had pecs that looked like boobs, boob pecs. Your underbust is under the thick part of that muscle against the rib cage. Under the pectorals, right there.

And then your bust is the thickest part, wherever that may happen to land on you, on your bod. We’re going to get you. We’re going to get you there.

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So some people like to augment their titties. Addie says, the positioning is right. It’s just that the cup is too big for the size of my actual breasts.

Let’s discuss augmenting your boobs. So if you’ve got lopsided titties, or you’re just not happy with the size that you’ve naturally got going on there, you might want to augment yourself by purchasing bra cup fillers. These can add a cup or two to your perceived tit size.

They’re useful for people who have one breast much larger than the other. You would buy a bra and you would have to go and actually try them on because you have approximated what the average cup size would be. But if one boobie is bigger, you might need to go up a cup size to accommodate the big girl so she doesn’t explode out of your bra and or get pinched, compacted, or scrunched down in there in an uncomfortable way.

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You make the big girl comfy, and then you buy one cutlet. They come in pairs, but you’ll only use one of them to make the other titties sit comfortably in its side and also make you look more symmetrical. Addie says, I like them natural.

They’re so soft and squishy. Oh, they’ve got really good cutlets nowadays. I know, it’s terrible.

I call them a cutlet. I sometimes end up putting breast cutlet. A falsie, a breast form, or a prosthesis.

They come in so many different sizes, shapes. God, they’re everywhere. So, check out the breast form store.

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They got boobies. Which range from self-stick breast forms to full chest plates. Most of what you’re going to be looking for are going to be things like the triangle-shaped breast forms.

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You can find them on cross-dresser sites. You can also find them on sites that cater to women who have had a mastectomy. Oftentimes, there’s two different versions of these.

There’s some that simply sit inside your bra. They hang out in there. You use the bra to hold them.

You would place it inside your bra. Your breast, or whatever you have for your chest, sits on top of that and it looks like… It basically transforms your bra into a push-up bra. Breast forms.

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There are also some that are silicone. You would put a drop of water onto it and then stick it to your tit. It sticks to you, getting the position correct.

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It sticks, it clings to you, it has more natural movement. It’s so that when you’re moving, like if you go dancing while wearing these, it looks more natural. You also don’t have to worry about, if you bend over, having a boob fall out.

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Kylie says, I lost my breast forms. They were teardrop-shaped and excellent, but I got a cheap set for like $40 and I was shocked. They’re not bad.

No, they’re not super bad. They’re not hard to use. They’re not difficult to acquire.

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They exist for multiple reasons. Women who have had a mastectomy. Women who are asymmetrical.

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You buy them in a pair and you use only one to balance out your boobs. Make a match. Cross-dressers use them.

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Drag queens use them. Trans women use them. Cis women who just want bigger tits use them.

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They’re a fabulous way to test out. So women who are considering getting their boobs done and getting bigger titties will try them out with breast forms first to see. Do you like the way your clothing looks? Do you like the attention that you get? Do you like the way it feels when you’ve got gazongas hooters? Do you like it? If you do, great.

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Go get the surgery done. Get yourself some boobies, girl. If you don’t like it, well, that’s valuable information to know, too.

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So breast forms. Super duper helpful. Keep in mind, most breast forms, you’re going to have to go by how big you want your titties to be.

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The Jodie brand is actually a really, really good, reputable brand. You can get foam breast forms. You can also get silicone breast forms.

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Silicone ones stick on. Sometimes they have nipples. Sometimes they don’t.

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It just depends. Some of them are triangle-shaped. Some of them are teardrop-shaped.

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What’s your boobie look like? What does your chest look like? How do you want your chest to look like? And he says, my scapula. Fuck with the measurement. Down.

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Just enough that your scapula… Your scapula shouldn’t really be in there. My… Let me wiggle my back around a little bit. It should be under your scapula.

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Down a bit. Hey, Sissy Jasmine. I didn’t even see you join us tonight.

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Howdy, girl. We’re talking about measuring for a bra. And breast forms.

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So you might be thinking to yourself, what do I do if I go to get a bra and the fucking thing stops closing? What if I gain weight, but I’ve got a really sexy bra and I don’t want to have to buy a new fucking bra? Right? It happens. Some bras are extremely expensive. I’m staring at the Agent Provocateur website.

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Some bras are extremely expensive. Kylie has the answer. Extenders.

Hell yes. Do not, for the love of fuck, do not buy the bra band extenders from Victoria’s Secret. They are taking your money.

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Holy shit. Unbelievable. Ten dollars for fucking bra extenders.

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You can get them drits again. We love drits. It’s like three dollars.

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Four dollars. Okay, so the drits, D-R-I-T-Z brand, they sell bra hardware, basically. And so they have the back extenders in one and a quarter inch, two and a quarter inch, three inch, however wide the back of your bra is.

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And some bras are very, very slim and slender. Those are fancy. Bryn is worried that Agent Provocateur is now my porn.

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Hee hee hee. Oh, okay, so for, Hattie says, then I won’t get the larger portion of the boobies. Okay, for your band measurement, it should be under your scapula.

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For your bust measurement, it can include the scapula. You’re also probably going to have to try some shit on to get the correct size. So if you want something that actually fits your actual current physical body, you’re going to have to try things on.

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For most places, like most of the stores, like in a mall or in a shopping center, if they won’t let you try them on in the store, you can probably buy them, take them home, try them on, and then bring back anything that doesn’t fit. Just leave all the tags on and don’t get them dirty. And that includes, don’t sweat in them for the love of God.

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My retail trauma begs. Hattie says, but with the scapula, it goes to a double D. How bony are you? Damn, girl. Yeah, you’re going to have to try some bras on.

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You can also, most places, if you go in and you tell them, hi, I’m a trans girl and I need a bra sizing, and I’ve never done this before and I’m not sure what size I wear, please help. A vast majority of people would be willing to help you and be like, oh yeah, sure. Let’s measure, because fuck it, let’s measure.

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Let’s get you correct. And you can always just try them on. If you put it on and it pinches, it’s too small.

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If you put it on and your titties rattle in there, it’s too big. Go down a cup size. Get the band correct first and sometimes getting your cup size correct involves a couple of variables.

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Not all bras are made equally. I’m about to throw so much vocabulary. I’m so sorry.

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A full coverage bra covers basically all of the chest. All of the breast material is covered by a bra. These are great for girlies with big boobies because it’s supportive.

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Ah. Tits are heavy. They pull forward on your whole chest.

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They can cause your neck to hurt, your back to hurt, your spine to hurt, your shoulders start to ache. If you’ve got a bra with narrow shoulder straps and big titties, ow, it hurts because your boobs are so big and so heavy they cause the shoulder straps to dig into your shoulders. The bras that you find for big titty girls have broad straps.

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It’s more comfortable. And fuck your aesthetics, frankly. The type of cup.

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Full coverage covers everything. Balconette covers from about half of the top of the tit on all of the bottom. And it’s often much more supportive and it kind of lifts and smooshes.

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A demi bra, D-E-M-I, covers just above the areolas, usually fairly flat, and does not cover the rest of the top of the titties. Most bras definitely should cover the nipples. If it doesn’t cover your nipples, that’s the wrong size.

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Your nipples should be covered by your bra. They go in the inside of the bra, not the outside of it. A deep plunge bra is designed so the front of the bra has a deep cleavage-revealing plunge, often all the way down to the band.

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Remember that the band goes under your tits. So a deep plunge is a cleavage bra. It is for cleavage.

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Pair that with a deep plunge push-up or put falsies or breast forms inside your bra to push things up and forward even more and you could wind up with really great cleavage. Like, wow, boobies dive in their head first. Good luck.

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I’m going in. A t-shirt bra is a bra that’s made out of the same material as a t-shirt. They’re often extremely soft.

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They have some supportive things going on in there, often not too much because it’s t-shirt material. The material itself is stretchier. Bras that are made out of things like satin or a cotton jacquard, the fabric itself is less stretchy and less flexible than a t-shirt material is.

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A t-shirt is knit. Cotton and satin are woven. The fabric itself has more structure to it.

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This means when you make a bra out of it, a t-shirt bra is just more comfortable. It’s more casual. It doesn’t do the lift, squish, present, forming, supportive structural work that the other materials and the other bras do.

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And he says, I’m going to have to re-listen to all of that. I know I’m throwing things at you. Brace! But these are nitpicky things that have to do with getting the fit correct.

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If your tits are shallow on the top, so if the top part of your chest is more bony than booby, you have shallow tits. It’s also possible that you may have boobies that have started to head southward because gravity makes fools of us all. Your boobies are headed southward on your bye boobies.

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The fit of the bra and the type of cup coverage might change. If you get a full coverage bra but you have teardrop titties that are shallow on the top, you may not have enough in the top part of your chest to fill the bra cup. And it can make it feel as if the bra cup is the wrong size.

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It’s not. It’s the wrong style. Go for a balconet or a demi.

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It’ll feel better because there’s less material at the top part of your chest where you don’t have any booby. There’s no booby there to fill that up so you don’t need a full coverage bra. Go for a demi or a balconet.

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Less coverage. Same support just because all the tissue of your breast is in a different format than the rest of it. If you put your bra on and you’ve got bra and you’ve got booby coming out the sides you probably have the wrong cup size.

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Or the wrong band size. Fuck around in there and change things until it fits right. You may also want to try an underwire.

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An underwire bra basically it’s a piece of metal that cups your tit. It usually runs from armpit under the boobies all the way to the middle center of the chest. It provides more support especially if you’ve got big boobies or if you would like to have big boobies and you want it to push things up and lift and separate and give you boobs.

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Underwires work great. If you don’t take care of your underwire or if you don’t take care of your bra in general you can snap an underwire. Having that happen while you’re wearing it sucks a whole lot because all of a sudden you’re being stabbed by your underwire in the boob.

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It’s very disconcerting. Poovie said, I heard it’s a piece of metal designed for torture. Not really.

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As long as it works and is doing its job and doesn’t like snap in half while you’re wearing it it’s great. If it snaps in half while you’re wearing it you’re like ah, okay because all of a sudden like you piece of metal is like I’m going to stab in the boob. Motherfucker.

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They do their job really great. So, now you’ve got your bra. Right? How do you wash a bra? You are going to invest in a lingerie mesh bag for laundry.

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A laundry bag. It’s a mesh bag. You put your bra in it.

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You wash it not on hot not on heavy soil. You wash it on delicate with cool in your washing machine and when you are done with it if you are in a hurry you can run it in the dryer on low tumble but please don’t lay that motherfucker flat to dry especially if it’s a good expensive bra. Bras can run anywhere from the super cheap ones that aren’t going to last very long maybe 50 bucks all the way up to two or three hundred dollars for a really good bra.

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Or the agent provocateur ones take six hundred dollars for a bra. Lay that motherfucker flat. It preserves the shape of it.

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It doesn’t twist it out of shape. It makes the fabric last longer. The bra itself will last longer.

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The hardware on the bra stays in the places where it needs to be. But definitely use the mesh bag for your lingerie and whatever you do do not let a sissy get a hold of it and stretch your fucking bra out of shape because they got the wrong goddamn size and thought that they could wear yours. I will murder you if you steal my bra.

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Right? I will commit uh commit crimes. Addie says the fancy ones with lace and wire and everything they can go in the washing machine? Yes. Get a lingerie mesh bag wash it on delicate with cool water.

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Not hot. Dear God. Not hot.

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Not um the extra agitation for heavy soiled. No. Delicate.

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Delicate. If you can’t do that fucking hand wash it. Put it in your sink with a little bit of soap gently gently agitate it squish it around in there like swirl it through the soapy water rinse it roll it in a towel and kind of squeeze the moisture out lay the bitch flat to dry.

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Okay? There. Ah. Alright.

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That’s how to measure for a bra. Good luck. Go forth.

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Enjoy. and just remember when in doubt just try them on. You’re going to have to try on a bra to make sure that it fits correctly.

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The number of times I’ve ordered bras and then immediately mailed them right back I can’t even begin to tell you because you can think you’ve got the right size and it turns out that no you don’t. Satan was measuring today and he lied and I don’t know what the fuck size I’m wearing it’s witchcraft who the fuck can tell. Try it on if it fits and makes you go ooh keep it.

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Otherwise life is short send that bitch back. Alright. This is Whore School.

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Teaching you to be a better hoe. You want to be a good little hoe in your cute little bra. Please remember it’s not too late for you to join the sissy pageant.

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All you have to do is a 30 minute call with any of the participating mistresses. Hey! I’m participating. I’m also the August 2026 mistress of the month.

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That means all your paid sessions with me all month long you can add five minutes for free. How fun is that? It’s pretty good, right? Five free minutes. I want to see every single one of you in a cute bra that fits properly in the sissy pageant.

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Looking at you looking at you looking at all y’all y’all better join. Thank you all for listening tonight. This has been whore school.

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Go get measured. And I’ll see you all later. Good night.

 

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